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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	andrei radulescu-banu <iubica2@yahoo.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux, tcpdump and vlan
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:41:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070719144131.0c230c8f@oldman.hamilton.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zm1sbjzl.fsf@maximus.localdomain>

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:28:46 +0200
Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl> wrote:

> Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> writes:
> 
> > Your suggestion of disabling VLAN acceleration in promiscous
> > mode sounds like a reasonable solution until then ..
> 
> From a user perspective:
> 
> I'm not sure promiscous mode is related to the problem.
> Tcpdump without promiscous mode makes perfect sense.
> 
> I don't know very well VLAN code internals, but I think
> the VLAN # is used for looking up the interface, so
> presenting the "original" packet on the trunk device
> would IMHO involve some skb cloning, and perhaps some
> ethtool option could probably control that.
> 
> Not sure about untagged frames vs. tagged frames with
> the default VLAN id - can the hardware at all differentiate
> between them?
> 
> 
> Or, perhaps it should be left (almost) as is - with "software"
> VLANs the traffic always goes through the master interface,
> but with "accelerated" mode it only goes through logical
> interfaces and doesn't show up on master? Probably with
> exception of invalid VLANs, which could be injected back to
> master (because no logical device exists)?


I don't claim to be a VLAN expert but there are really three cases
for handling tagged frames

1) non-accelerated device 
    * all frames show in promiscious mode
    * tag is part of the frame that shows up
       in tcpdump, and then gets stripped by the 8021q module.
2) rx tag stripping device
     * all frames show in promiscious mode
     * tag is in skb but NOT passed to tcpdump
3) rx vlan acceleration
     * only frames that for vlan's that are registered show up
        in promisicous mode
     * tag is in skb but NOT passed to tcpdump

Unfortunately, the tag is lost as part of the VLAN acceleration process
so it is not a simple matter of changing code in AF_PACKET receive
to restore the tag.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-19 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <878246.51044.qm@web56608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
2007-07-18 22:57 ` Linux, tcpdump and vlan Patrick McHardy
2007-07-18 23:22   ` Ben Greear
2007-07-18 23:34     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-19  0:01       ` Ben Greear
2007-07-19  0:19         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-19 13:28   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 13:41     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2007-07-19 14:00       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-19 14:23       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 15:00         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-19 15:45           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 15:20         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-19 15:47 andrei radulescu-banu
2007-07-19 16:21 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-19 16:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-19 16:47 ` Ben Greear
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-19 16:02 andrei radulescu-banu
2007-07-20 19:58 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-20 20:34   ` Ben Greear
2007-07-21 11:32     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-21 17:57       ` Ben Greear
2007-07-21 21:15         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 17:46 andrei radulescu-banu
2007-07-19 18:20 andrei radulescu-banu
2007-07-19 19:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-19 21:38 andrei radulescu-banu
2007-07-19 23:38 ` Ben Greear
2007-07-20 20:19   ` Krzysztof Halasa

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