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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
To: Krishna Kumar2 <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>
Cc: jagana@us.ibm.com, johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, gaagaan@gmail.com,
	Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se, kumarkr@linux.ibm.com,
	mcarlson@broadcom.com, peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@intel.com,
	hadi@cyberus.ca, kaber@trash.net, jeff@garzik.org,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, mchan@broadcom.com, tgraf@suug.ch,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, sri@us.ibm.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	rdreier@cisco.com
Subject: [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH 00/10] Implement batching skb API
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:57:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070720085737.5319d3d4@oldman> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF37602E5B.BA36F154-ON6525731E.0028A4E9-6525731E.00293CC3@in.ibm.com>

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:00:25 +0530
Krishna Kumar2 <krkumar2@in.ibm.com> wrote:

> Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> wrote on 07/20/2007
> 12:48:48 PM:
> 
> > You may see worse performance with batching in the real world when
> > running over WAN's.  Like TSO, batching will generate back to back packet
> > trains that are subject to multi-packet synchronized loss. The problem is
> that
> > intermediate router queues are often close to full, and when a long
> string
> > of packets arrives back to back only the first ones will get in, the rest
> > get dropped.  Normal sends have at least minimal pacing so they are less
> > likely do get synchronized drop.
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> OK. The difference that I could see is that in existing code, the "minimal
> pacing" also could lead to (possibly slighly lesser) loss since sends are
> quick iterations at the IP layer, while in batching sends are iterative at
> the driver layer.
> 
> Is it an issue ? Any suggestions ?

Not an immediate issue, but it is the kind of thing that could cause performance
regression reports if it was used on every interface by default.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-20  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-20  6:31 [ofa-general] [PATCH 00/10] Implement batching skb API Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  6:32 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 01/10] HOWTO documentation for Batching SKB Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  6:32 ` [PATCH 02/10] Networking include file changes Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  9:59   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 17:25   ` [ofa-general] " Sridhar Samudrala
2007-07-21  6:30     ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-23  5:59       ` Sridhar Samudrala
2007-07-23  6:27         ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20  6:32 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 03/10] dev.c changes Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20 10:04   ` [ofa-general] " Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 10:27     ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20 11:20       ` [ofa-general] " Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 11:52         ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20 11:55           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 12:09         ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20 12:25         ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20 12:37           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 17:44   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2007-07-21  6:44     ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20  6:32 ` [PATCH 04/10] net-sysfs.c changes Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20 10:07   ` [ofa-general] " Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 10:28     ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20 11:21       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 16:22         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-21  6:46           ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-23  9:56             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-20  6:32 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 05/10] sch_generic.c changes Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20 10:11   ` [ofa-general] " Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 10:32     ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20 11:24       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20 18:16   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-21  6:56     ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-22 17:03       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-20  6:33 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 06/10] IPoIB header file changes Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  6:33 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 07/10] IPoIB verb changes Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  6:33 ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 08/10] IPoIB multicast/CM changes Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  6:33 ` [PATCH 09/10] IPoIB batching xmit handler support Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  6:33 ` [PATCH 10/10] IPoIB batching in internal xmit/handler routines Krishna Kumar
2007-07-20  7:18 ` [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH 00/10] Implement batching skb API Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-20  7:30   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-20  7:57     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2007-07-20  7:47   ` [ofa-general] " Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-21 13:46   ` [ofa-general] TCP and batching WAS(Re: " jamal
2007-07-23  9:44     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-20 12:54 ` [ofa-general] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-07-20 13:02   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-23  4:23   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-21 13:18 ` [ofa-general] " jamal
2007-07-22  6:27   ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-22 12:51     ` jamal
2007-07-23  4:49       ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-23 12:32         ` jamal
2007-07-24  3:44           ` [ofa-general] " Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-24 19:28             ` jamal
2007-07-25  2:41               ` Krishna Kumar2

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