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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	csnook@redhat.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ak@suse.de, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	wensong@linux-vs.org, horms@verge.net.au, wjiang@resilience.com,
	cfriesen@nortel.com, zlynx@acm.org, rpjday@mindspring.com,
	jesper.juhl@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:43:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070814224354.GE8243@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708150001.58217.arnd@arndb.de>

On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 12:01:54AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 August 2007, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > #define order(x) asm volatile("" : "+m" (x))
> > 
> > There was something very similar discussed earlier in this thread,
> > with quite a bit of debate as to exactly what the "m" flag should
> > look like.  I suggested something similar named ACCESS_ONCE in the
> > context of RCU (http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/7/11/664):
> > 
> >         #define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
> > 
> > The nice thing about this is that it works for both loads and stores.
> > Not clear that order() above does this -- I get compiler errors when
> > I try something like "b = order(a)" or "order(a) = 1" using gcc 4.1.2.
> 
> Well, it serves a different purpose: While your ACCESS_ONCE() macro is
> an lvalue, the order() macro is a statement that can be used in place
> of the barrier() macro. order() is the most lightweight barrier as it
> only enforces ordering on a single variable in the compiler, but does
> not have any side-effects visible to other threads, like the cache
> line access in ACCESS_ONCE has.

ACCESS_ONCE() is indeed intended to be used when actually loading or
storing the variable.  That said, I must admit that it is not clear to me
why you would want to add an extra order() rather than ACCESS_ONCE()ing
one or both of the adjacent accesses to that same variable.

So, what am I missing?

						Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-14 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-09 13:41 [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv Chris Snook
2007-08-09 16:54 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10  9:23 ` David Howells
2007-08-10 19:54   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-11  0:54     ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11  4:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-13  5:15         ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-13  6:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14  5:34             ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-14  7:26               ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-14 17:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14 22:01                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-14 22:43                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2007-08-15 13:29                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-15 15:06                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-08-15 13:30                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 20:15                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16  1:09                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16  2:27                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-11  8:47   ` David Howells
2007-08-13  6:44     ` Chris Snook
2007-08-14  5:42       ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 18:51         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:18           ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 19:46             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:59               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 20:13                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 20:38                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 21:15                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16  1:20                       ` Nick Piggin

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