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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, 123.oleg@gmail.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
	josht@linux.vnet.ibm.com, minyard@acm.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lockdep: annotate rcu_read_{,un}lock()
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:53:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070817185327.GA21190@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070817155357.GD8464@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 08:53:57AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 09:56:45AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 09:01 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 04:25:07PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > There seem to be some unbalanced rcu_read_{,un}lock() issues of late,
> > > > how about doing something like this:
> > > 
> > > This will break when rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock() are invoked
> > > from NMI/SMI handlers -- the raw_local_irq_save() in lock_acquire() will
> > > not mask NMIs or SMIs.
> > > 
> > > One approach would be to check for being in an NMI/SMI handler, and
> > > to avoid calling lock_acquire() and lock_release() in those cases.
> > 
> > It seems:
> > 
> > #define nmi_enter()		do { lockdep_off(); __irq_enter(); } while (0)
> > #define nmi_exit()		do { __irq_exit(); lockdep_on(); } while (0)
> > 
> > Should make it all work out just fine. (for NMIs at least, /me fully
> > ignorant of the workings of SMIs)
> 
> Very good point, at least for NMIs on i386 and x86_64.  Can't say that I
> know much about SMIs myself.  Or about whatever equivalents to NMIs and
> SMIs might exist on other platforms.  :-/  Of course, the other platforms
> could be handled by making the RCU lockdep operate only on i386 and x86_64
> if required.
> 
> Corey, any advice on SMI handlers?  Is there something like nmi_enter()
> and nmi_exit() that allows disabing lockdep?
> 
> > > Another approach would be to use sparse, which has checks for
> > > rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() nesting.
> > 
> > Yeah, but one more method can never hurt, no? :-)
> 
> Excellent point!
> 
> I guess the next thing for me is to do a performance check.  Looks like
> CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC is not on by default, so not violently worried
> about performance, but would be good to know.

4-CPU 1.8GHz Opteron 844 running 2.6.22 CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE with Peter's
patch running rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() in a tight loop:

1 CPU:  91.7ns
2 CPU: 335.2ns
3 CPU: 534.3ns  (But bimodal: two CPUs at 640.7ns, one at 321.6ns)
4 CPU: 784.0ns  (again bimodal: three CPUs at 895.9ns, one at 448.2ns)

Running without Peter's patch measures the loop overhead of about 1.2ns.

So not crippling, but definitely a debug-only option that is not enabled
by default in production.

In summary, seems like an eminently reasonable approach to me, assuming
that the NMI/SMI issues can be resolved across the platforms that have
them.  Good stuff, Peter!!!

						Thanx, Paul

      parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-17 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <af57f1ac0708141130v729fa636k3150673809ec20a8@mail.gmail.com>
2007-08-15  8:33 ` linux kernel 2.6.18-20 bug: rcu_read_unlock in __sock_create Herbert Xu
2007-08-15 21:46   ` David Miller
2007-08-16 14:25     ` [PATCH] lockdep: annotate rcu_read_{,un}lock() Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-16 16:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17  7:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-17 15:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 18:48             ` Corey Minyard
2007-08-18 22:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-17 18:53             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]

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