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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: ian.mcdonald@jandi.co.nz
Cc: rick.jones2@hp.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] make _minimum_ TCP retransmission timeout configurable
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:23:54 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070829.152354.39168348.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5640c7e00708291510p778f387w51d50e981ba49a25@mail.gmail.com>

From: "Ian McDonald" <ian.mcdonald@jandi.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:10:37 +1200

> Understand what you are saying. That is why I questioned as 200 msecs
> makes no sense on a LAN with < 1 msec RTT. So if the current is
> ridiculous and 1000 is even more so, why do we use? Just because that
> is how TCP is written I'm guessing.

We considered getting rid of the lower bound several times, but didn't
want to investigate it fully back then.

> I know that in DCCP CCID3 the RTO is 4 x RTT (from memory - it might
> be a slight variation) but we ended up putting a minimum on it as you
> also face a problem if it fires too frequently (i.e. link is in
> usecs).
> 
> I might ask around on research lists and see why this issue has never
> been revisited.

There is also the argument that on a local lan congestion control
stops to make any sense.  The problem it that you can't detect what is
a local lan, and any config knob to indicate this is an unacceptable
hack.

Any "congestion" you see on a local high speed lan will be gone before
you can react to it, so it's pretty pointless to do anything.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-29 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-29 20:52 [PATCH] make _minimum_ TCP retransmission timeout configurable Rick Jones
2007-08-29 21:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-08-29 22:11   ` Rick Jones
2007-08-29 21:32 ` Ian McDonald
2007-08-29 21:46   ` David Miller
2007-08-29 22:10     ` Ian McDonald
2007-08-29 22:23       ` David Miller [this message]
2007-08-29 22:13     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-29 22:28       ` David Miller
2007-08-29 22:51         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-29 22:58           ` NCR, was " John Heffner
2007-08-29 22:59             ` David Miller
2007-08-29 22:32       ` Rick Jones
2007-08-29 22:29     ` Rick Jones
2007-08-29 22:35       ` David Miller
2007-08-29 22:48         ` John Heffner
2007-08-29 22:52           ` John Heffner
2007-08-29 22:53         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2007-08-29 23:06         ` Rick Jones
2007-08-29 23:15           ` David Miller
2007-08-29 23:31             ` Rick Jones
2007-08-30  5:22               ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-08-30 17:10                 ` Rick Jones
2007-08-29 23:44             ` John Heffner
2007-09-05 19:04             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-09-06 20:39               ` David Miller
2007-08-29 22:09   ` Rick Jones
2007-08-29 22:20     ` David Miller
2007-08-29 22:33       ` Ian McDonald
2007-08-29 22:37         ` David Miller

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