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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Sam Leffler <sam-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:29:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070901222901.GO9260@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46D9E1B8.2060300-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 03:03:36PM -0700, Sam Leffler wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
>>   
>>> On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik <jeff-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> This will hopefully help diminish certain myths about the code 
>>>>> licensing.
>>>>>         
>>>> What myth?  The myth that Theo understands dual licensing?
>>>>       
>>> Reyk's code was never dual licensed, so it's not like it even matters
>>> to the original dispute.
>>>     
>>
>> It's no longer dual licenced in the FreeBSD tree because the FreeBSD 
>> people removed the GPL choice of the dual licenced code 3 months ago.
>>
>> So all of Theo's accusations of people breaking the law by making this 
>> dual licenced code GPL-only apply as well to the FreeBSD people...
>>   
>
> Sigh, why actually check the facts when you can make them up.   The code in 
> question is my code.  It has my copyright (modulo bits shared with onoe-san 
> who was consulted on the switch from dual-bsd/gpl to bsd only in freebsd).  

The latter is the code by Video54 Technologies?

> Of course what was amusing was how after I changed the license on the 
> current code in freebsd certain folks retroactively applied the license 
> changes to code that was 3 years old.
>
> But is there a point to all this nonsense?  I dual-licensed the code so 
> folks could adopt and use it however they saw fit.  As I've said before I 
> don't care what people do with the work I give away so long as they don't 
> claim it's their own.

Fully agreed.  :-)

>>> That said, I don't see what exact wording you consider inaccurate.
>>>     
>>
>> Both the FreeBSD and Linux people draw the logical conclusion that this 
>> "Alternatively" means everyone can always choose to remove one of the two 
>> choices alternatively offered.
>>
>> According to Theo, that is "breaking the law"...
>
> I've yet to see "FreeBSD people" speak up so again you're just spouting 
> jibberish.  I am speaking up as the author of the code that set the dual 
> license in place.  I have the definitive say and I have said that any of my 
> code that is dual-licensed can be made gpl only.

Sorry, this has been a thinko on my side:

If noone except you and onoe-san made any contributions to this code 
that were non-trivial enough for automatically giving its author a 
copyright on his contributions (whatever this means in various 
jurisdictions...) it was indeed an author-only change.

>    Sam

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-01 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200709010140.l811eq9H005896@cvs.openbsd.org>
     [not found] ` <200709010140.l811eq9H005896-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 16:48   ` Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]     ` <f34ca13c0709010948v67b04b58lb098713dc38c4d6a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:21       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <46D99FB7.6030505-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:37           ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]             ` <f34ca13c0709011037p221cb40fjf69651d1858df212-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:54               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:16                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:51                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 22:06                     ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                 ` <20070901205457.GK9260-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 21:27                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 21:52                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 23:29                       ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]                         ` <f34ca13c0709011629g1f16508cic7c31c3d20a57dae-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 23:48                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                             ` <43e72e890709011648k5caffb7fn1051e1f5d5f27c9b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  0:11                               ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  0:09                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  0:53                             ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 10:36                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                 ` <20070902113638.78fbd202-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:20                                   ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021303001.4312-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:50                                       ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                                         ` <20070902115041.GM16016-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:28                                           ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021416130.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:36                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 12:46                                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                                 ` <20070902134612.28a88761-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:00                                                   ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 13:12                                                     ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021446550.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:53                                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:57                                                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]                                                         ` <m3642txj91.fsf-fiqtE+24Nu0B9AHHLWeGtNQXobZC6xk2@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 14:11                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                                                             ` <46DAC482.5090107-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 15:58                                                               ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021754250.6772-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 18:23                                                                   ` Matthew Jacob
2007-09-05 13:22                                                                 ` David H. Lynch Jr.
2007-09-02 18:21                                                       ` Al Viro
2007-09-02 12:36                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 22:03                   ` Sam Leffler
     [not found]                     ` <46D9E1B8.2060300-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 22:29                       ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <f34ca13c0709011427u <20070901215225.GM9260@stusta.de>
     [not found]                   ` <20070901215225.GM9260-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  0:36                     ` Jason Dixon
     [not found]                       ` <3A831845-B630-42AD-B52F-DC9EA2060BAE-a0y0GdpcbPLlcHVOVdbKLw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  1:34                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:39                           ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]                             ` <f34ca13c0709011839yb32f419s20c259cbaabdd132-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  1:42                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-02  1:53                                 ` Al Viro
2007-09-02  1:43                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:58                             ` Casey Dahlin
2007-09-02  2:06                               ` Al Viro
     [not found]                               ` <46DA18C2.1000104-e4nNhFGpWWo@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  2:44                                 ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-02  1:55                         ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                           ` <20070902015537.GH16016-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  3:47                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2007-09-02  5:09                               ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]                                 ` <f34ca13c0709012209x64c282b9o1fd0cb7d08690247-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  5:46                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2007-09-02  2:22                         ` Jonathan Gray
2007-09-02 10:18                           ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 20:30     ` Fwd: " Alan Cox
     [not found]       ` <20070901213052.530483c3-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:57         ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-02  0:02 Bob Beck
2007-09-02  0:36 ` Theo de Raadt
     [not found]   ` <200709020036.l820aaNf014181-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  1:22     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  1:52   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  2:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 11:40   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-02  1:32 ` Adrian Bunk
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2007-09-02 14:47                 ` Bodo Eggert

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