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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Theo de Raadt <deraadt-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Bob Beck <beck-B8nDeHyzpwgue2609Ts4vbeKQFjJmrJW@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:22:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070902012228.GE16016@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200709020036.l820aaNf014181-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 06:36:36PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> When companies have taken our wireless device drivers, many many of
> them have given changes and fixes back.  Some maybe didn't, but that
> is OK.
> 
> When Linux took our changes back, they immediately locked the door
> against changes moving back, by putting a GPL license on guard.
> 
> Why does our brother Linux take a file that is 90% BSD licensed,
> and refuse to let us see the 10% he adds?

Theo, the primary claim you made in your email that was forwarded to 
linux-kernel was:

<--  snip  -->

In http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/29/183, Alan Cox managed to summarize
what Jiri Slaby and Luis Rodriguez were trying to do by proposing a
modification of a Dual Licenced file without the consent of all the
authors.  Alan asks "So whats the problem ?".  Well, Alan, I must
caution you -- your post is advising people to break the law.

<--  snip  -->

It is a quite heavy accusation against Alan that saying it was OK to 
change dual licenced code to one of the offered licences would advise
to break the law.

There's nothing about goodwill or other ethical questions in your 
statement, this statement you made can be verified or falsified by 
lawyers.

If it is true, all ethical questions about this are anyway moot because 
it was illegal as you claim.

If you wrongly accused Alan, you owe Alan an apology.

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-02  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-02  0:02 Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing Bob Beck
2007-09-02  0:36 ` Theo de Raadt
     [not found]   ` <200709020036.l820aaNf014181-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  1:22     ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-09-02  1:52   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  2:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 11:40   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-02  1:32 ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found] <8YEkG-1ed-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8YEkG-1ed-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8YEXm-2hs-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8YF6Z-2tM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8YIeP-7fC-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <8YUSv-1Bl-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <8YWhJ-3Gj-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <8YWhJ-3Gj-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <8YWKF-4y9-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-02 14:47                 ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] <200709010140.l811eq9H005896@cvs.openbsd.org>
     [not found] ` <200709010140.l811eq9H005896-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 16:48   ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]     ` <f34ca13c0709010948v67b04b58lb098713dc38c4d6a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:21       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <46D99FB7.6030505-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:37           ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]             ` <f34ca13c0709011037p221cb40fjf69651d1858df212-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:54               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:16                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:51                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 22:06                     ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                 ` <20070901205457.GK9260-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 21:27                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 21:52                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 23:29                       ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]                         ` <f34ca13c0709011629g1f16508cic7c31c3d20a57dae-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 23:48                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                             ` <43e72e890709011648k5caffb7fn1051e1f5d5f27c9b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  0:11                               ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  0:09                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  0:53                             ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 10:36                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                 ` <20070902113638.78fbd202-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:20                                   ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021303001.4312-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:50                                       ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                                         ` <20070902115041.GM16016-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:28                                           ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021416130.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:36                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 12:46                                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                                 ` <20070902134612.28a88761-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:00                                                   ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 13:12                                                     ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021446550.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:53                                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:57                                                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]                                                         ` <m3642txj91.fsf-fiqtE+24Nu0B9AHHLWeGtNQXobZC6xk2@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 14:11                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                                                             ` <46DAC482.5090107-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 15:58                                                               ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021754250.6772-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 18:23                                                                   ` Matthew Jacob
2007-09-05 13:22                                                                 ` David H. Lynch Jr.
2007-09-02 18:21                                                       ` Al Viro
2007-09-02 12:36                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 22:03                   ` Sam Leffler
     [not found]                     ` <46D9E1B8.2060300-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 22:29                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 20:30     ` Alan Cox
     [not found]       ` <20070901213052.530483c3-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:57         ` Jacob Meuser

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