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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Igor Sobrado <igor@condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:12:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070902131226.GN16016@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021446550.6181@condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es>

On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 03:00:46PM +0200, Igor Sobrado wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>>> So, a multi-licensed file remains multi-licensed except when all authors
>>> agree about a change in the licensing terms.  And it is clear on the BSD
>>
>> Not strictly true. They can either agree to a change and issue one or
>> they can convey to other parties the right to change the terms. The GPL
>> for example does this for version selection.
>
> So, under a dual-licensed BSD/GPL code the latter license allows a 
> developer to remove the GPL license itself and release a single-licensed 
> BSD code if other parties want to do it?


Exactly.


>> A multi-licensed work (note work not file - don't assume a file is a
>> boundary of a work) which conveys the choice of licence (as some bits of
>> ath5k did) allows a receiving party to choose the licence it wishes.
>> Failing that OpenBSD would have turned itself GPL by adding that file as
>> according to your argument "it must be distributed under *all* these
>> licensing terms concurrently".
>
> I would assume a file as a boundary of a work in the case that file is 
> under different licensing terms to the rest of the software package.  On a 
> lot of software packages different modules are covered under different 
> licensing terms.
>
> We can choose what license terms we will honor; however, we do not have the 
> ability to remove the licensing terms we do not like.


We have the ability if the author explicitely allowed it.

This is the licencing text we are talking about:


/*-
 * Copyright (c) 2002-2004 Sam Leffler, Errno Consulting
 * All rights reserved.
 *
 * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
 * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
 * are met:
 * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer,
 *    without modification.
 * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce at minimum a disclaimer
 *    similar to the "NO WARRANTY" disclaimer below ("Disclaimer") and any
 *    redistribution must be conditioned upon including a substantially
 *    similar Disclaimer requirement for further binary redistribution.
 * 3. Neither the names of the above-listed copyright holders nor the names
 *    of any contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived
 *    from this software without specific prior written permission.
 *
 * Alternatively, this software may be distributed under the terms of the
 * GNU General Public License ("GPL") version 2 as published by the Free
 * Software Foundation.
 *
 * NO WARRANTY
 * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS
 * ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT
 * LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF NONINFRINGEMENT, MERCHANTIBILITY
 * AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL
 * THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY,
 * OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF
 * SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS
 * INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER
 * IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE)
 * ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF
 * THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
 */


The author himself offered two _alternatives_ for distributing his code.


> Igor.

cu
Adrian

-- 

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        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-02 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200709010140.l811eq9H005896@cvs.openbsd.org>
     [not found] ` <200709010140.l811eq9H005896-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 16:48   ` Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]     ` <f34ca13c0709010948v67b04b58lb098713dc38c4d6a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:21       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <46D99FB7.6030505-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:37           ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]             ` <f34ca13c0709011037p221cb40fjf69651d1858df212-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:54               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:16                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:51                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 22:06                     ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                 ` <20070901205457.GK9260-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 21:27                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 21:52                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 23:29                       ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]                         ` <f34ca13c0709011629g1f16508cic7c31c3d20a57dae-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 23:48                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                             ` <43e72e890709011648k5caffb7fn1051e1f5d5f27c9b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  0:11                               ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  0:09                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  0:53                             ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 10:36                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                 ` <20070902113638.78fbd202-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:20                                   ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021303001.4312-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:50                                       ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                                         ` <20070902115041.GM16016-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:28                                           ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021416130.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:36                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 12:46                                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                                 ` <20070902134612.28a88761-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:00                                                   ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 13:12                                                     ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
     [not found]                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021446550.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:53                                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:57                                                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]                                                         ` <m3642txj91.fsf-fiqtE+24Nu0B9AHHLWeGtNQXobZC6xk2@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 14:11                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                                                             ` <46DAC482.5090107-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 15:58                                                               ` Igor Sobrado
     [not found]                                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021754250.6772-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 18:23                                                                   ` Matthew Jacob
2007-09-05 13:22                                                                 ` David H. Lynch Jr.
2007-09-02 18:21                                                       ` Al Viro
2007-09-02 12:36                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 22:03                   ` Sam Leffler
     [not found]                     ` <46D9E1B8.2060300-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 22:29                       ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                 ` <f34ca13c0709011427u <20070901215225.GM9260@stusta.de>
     [not found]                   ` <20070901215225.GM9260-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  0:36                     ` Jason Dixon
     [not found]                       ` <3A831845-B630-42AD-B52F-DC9EA2060BAE-a0y0GdpcbPLlcHVOVdbKLw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  1:34                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:39                           ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]                             ` <f34ca13c0709011839yb32f419s20c259cbaabdd132-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  1:42                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-02  1:53                                 ` Al Viro
2007-09-02  1:43                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:58                             ` Casey Dahlin
2007-09-02  2:06                               ` Al Viro
     [not found]                               ` <46DA18C2.1000104-e4nNhFGpWWo@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  2:44                                 ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-02  1:55                         ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]                           ` <20070902015537.GH16016-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  3:47                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2007-09-02  5:09                               ` Constantine A. Murenin
     [not found]                                 ` <f34ca13c0709012209x64c282b9o1fd0cb7d08690247-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  5:46                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2007-09-02  2:22                         ` Jonathan Gray
2007-09-02 10:18                           ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 20:30     ` Fwd: " Alan Cox
     [not found]       ` <20070901213052.530483c3-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:57         ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-02  0:02 Bob Beck
2007-09-02  0:36 ` Theo de Raadt
     [not found]   ` <200709020036.l820aaNf014181-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02  1:22     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  1:52   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  2:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 11:40   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-02  1:32 ` Adrian Bunk
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2007-09-02 14:47                 ` Bodo Eggert

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