From: Al Viro <viro-rfM+Q5joDG/XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Igor Sobrado
<igor-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
Adrian Bunk <bunk-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
"Constantine A. Murenin"
<mureninc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:21:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070902182115.GR21089@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021446550.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 03:00:46PM +0200, Igor Sobrado wrote:
> >Not strictly true. They can either agree to a change and issue one or
> >they can convey to other parties the right to change the terms. The GPL
> >for example does this for version selection.
>
> So, under a dual-licensed BSD/GPL code the latter license allows a
> developer to remove the GPL license itself and release a single-licensed
> BSD code if other parties want to do it?
Exactly. That's what dual-licensing is.
[quote]
This is no different from the fact that we have some drivers that are
GPLv2/BSD licensed. Within the kernel, they are GPLv2. But on their own,
you can choose to use them under the BSD license, make your changes to
them, and release them commercially.
And correct - I cannot (and neither can anybody else) then accept those
*non*GPLv2 changes back.
[end quote]
That's from Linus and quite recently.
FWIW, it's damn hard to codify "... and changes to this code should not
change the situation". It's certainly a very good policy and in this
case it's the only sane policy.
[quote]
Actually, normally I *do* have such a trust. It's why I have no problem
with drivers that are dual-GPL/BSD, and in fact, I've told people that I
don't want them to turn them into GPL-only, because that is simply not
polite.
[end quote]
Same posting from Linus. And that's much more relevant to shooting the patch
in question down (and IMO it ought to be shot down) than references to
legality.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-02 18:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200709010140.l811eq9H005896@cvs.openbsd.org>
[not found] ` <200709010140.l811eq9H005896-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 16:48 ` Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing Constantine A. Murenin
[not found] ` <f34ca13c0709010948v67b04b58lb098713dc38c4d6a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:21 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <46D99FB7.6030505-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 17:37 ` Constantine A. Murenin
[not found] ` <f34ca13c0709011037p221cb40fjf69651d1858df212-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:51 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 22:06 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <20070901205457.GK9260-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 21:27 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 21:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 23:29 ` Constantine A. Murenin
[not found] ` <f34ca13c0709011629g1f16508cic7c31c3d20a57dae-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 23:48 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
[not found] ` <43e72e890709011648k5caffb7fn1051e1f5d5f27c9b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 0:11 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 0:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02 0:53 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 10:36 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20070902113638.78fbd202-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:20 ` Igor Sobrado
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021303001.4312-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 11:50 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <20070902115041.GM16016-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:28 ` Igor Sobrado
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021416130.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 12:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 12:46 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20070902134612.28a88761-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:00 ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 13:12 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021446550.6181-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 13:53 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:57 ` Krzysztof Halasa
[not found] ` <m3642txj91.fsf-fiqtE+24Nu0B9AHHLWeGtNQXobZC6xk2@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 14:11 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <46DAC482.5090107-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 15:58 ` Igor Sobrado
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709021754250.6772-wnk7FUYfzmtu2DZcH3qp6zJQgOOX0AMFMQBsIrBqeMw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 18:23 ` Matthew Jacob
2007-09-05 13:22 ` David H. Lynch Jr.
2007-09-02 18:21 ` Al Viro [this message]
2007-09-02 12:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 22:03 ` Sam Leffler
[not found] ` <46D9E1B8.2060300-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 22:29 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <f34ca13c0709011427u <20070901215225.GM9260@stusta.de>
[not found] ` <20070901215225.GM9260-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 0:36 ` Jason Dixon
[not found] ` <3A831845-B630-42AD-B52F-DC9EA2060BAE-a0y0GdpcbPLlcHVOVdbKLw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 1:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 1:39 ` Constantine A. Murenin
[not found] ` <f34ca13c0709011839yb32f419s20c259cbaabdd132-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 1:42 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-02 1:53 ` Al Viro
2007-09-02 1:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 1:58 ` Casey Dahlin
2007-09-02 2:06 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <46DA18C2.1000104-e4nNhFGpWWo@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 2:44 ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-02 1:55 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <20070902015537.GH16016-HeJ8Db2Gnd6zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 3:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2007-09-02 5:09 ` Constantine A. Murenin
[not found] ` <f34ca13c0709012209x64c282b9o1fd0cb7d08690247-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 5:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2007-09-02 2:22 ` Jonathan Gray
2007-09-02 10:18 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 20:30 ` Fwd: " Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20070901213052.530483c3-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 20:57 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-02 0:02 Bob Beck
2007-09-02 0:36 ` Theo de Raadt
[not found] ` <200709020036.l820aaNf014181-VON6Tr2NNtkmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-02 1:22 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02 1:52 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 2:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 11:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-02 1:32 ` Adrian Bunk
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