From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: urs@isnogud.escape.de, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, kaber@trash.net, joe@perches.com,
oliver@hartkopp.net, oliver.hartkopp@volkswagen.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070928.132038.35678834.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190996839.18681.68.camel@chaos>
From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:19 +0200
> I'm not inclined either way and we really should not make this a
> religious question whether that code goes in or not, especially not when
> we granted the mac80211 to export everything w/o _GPL suffix not too
> long ago.
This is because a wireless driver is a driver. It can exist outside
of the kernel and it's mac80211 stack just like any other network
device driver. ANd the interfaces in mac80211 are such that the
driver doesn't explicitly go into the internals of the implementation.
That's not true with CAN.
With this CAN stuff, any driver you write for it is intimately
integrated into the design and architecture of the CAN subsystem. Any
such driver cannot stand on it's own. Look at how these drivers can
get into the internals.
If this code goes in without the _GPL() exports, that's fine, but it's
setting incorrect expectations for people who think they can write
binary-only drivers and link to these symbols.
And it will be the CAN folks who are guilty of setting these
false premises. Especially after I've explicitly warned about
it here.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-28 20:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-25 12:20 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #8 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 1/7] CAN: Allocate protocol numbers for PF_CAN Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:41 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-09-25 13:24 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 15:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-25 21:00 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 21:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-09-25 21:09 ` David Miller
2007-09-28 16:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-28 20:20 ` David Miller [this message]
2007-09-28 20:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 3/7] CAN: Add raw protocol Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 4/7] CAN: Add broadcast manager (bcm) protocol Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:51 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-09-25 13:26 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 13:26 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-09-25 14:00 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 14:47 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 17:55 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-25 17:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 19:09 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 6/7] CAN: Add maintainer entries Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 7/7] CAN: Add documentation Urs Thuermann
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-16 15:02 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: New PF_CAN protocol family for 2.6.25, update Urs Thuermann
2007-11-16 15:02 ` [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:13 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: New PF_CAN protocol family for 2.6.25 Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:13 ` [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 21:38 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-15 7:40 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-11-15 8:04 ` Joe Perches
2007-11-15 11:51 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-11-15 12:05 ` David Miller
2007-11-15 15:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-16 14:33 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-11-16 23:42 ` David Miller
2007-11-15 11:36 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-11-15 15:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-05 10:49 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #10 Urs Thuermann
2007-10-05 10:49 ` [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 13:10 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #9 Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 13:10 ` [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 14:38 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-02 16:09 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-04 11:51 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-10-04 13:40 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-09-20 18:43 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #7 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-20 18:43 ` [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-09-20 20:06 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-20 20:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-21 10:35 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-21 16:58 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-24 19:23 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-21 12:47 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-21 18:01 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-22 10:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-17 10:03 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #6 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-17 10:03 ` [PATCH 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-09-17 15:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-18 13:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-18 14:54 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-18 15:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-18 21:20 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-19 8:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-20 8:53 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-20 10:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-20 11:30 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-20 11:43 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-08-04 2:06 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #5 Urs Thuermann
2007-08-04 2:06 ` [patch 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 3:44 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #3 Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 3:44 ` [patch 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, update Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-05-16 14:51 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family Urs Thuermann
2007-05-16 14:51 ` [patch 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-05-16 16:35 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-05-16 19:14 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-05-16 20:51 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-05-18 0:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-05-18 9:19 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-18 14:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-05-18 15:03 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-18 21:06 ` Oliver Hartkopp
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