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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: krkumar2@in.ibm.com
Cc: peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@intel.com, gaagaan@gmail.com,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, hadi@cyberus.ca,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, jagana@us.ibm.com, jeff@garzik.org,
	johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru, kaber@trash.net, mcarlson@broadcom.com,
	mchan@broadcom.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	randy.dunlap@oracle.com, rdreier@cisco.com, rick.jones2@hp.com,
	Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
	sri@us.ibm.com, tgraf@suug.ch, xma@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3][NET_BATCH] net core use batching
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:02:55 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071009.040255.71088090.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF8571378C.BCC92C60-ON6525736F.003A8E75-6525736F.003C488C@in.ibm.com>

From: Krishna Kumar2 <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:28:27 +0530

> Isn't it enough that the multiqueue+batching drivers handle skbs
> belonging to different queue's themselves, instead of qdisc having
> to figure that out? This will reduce costs for most skbs that are
> neither batched nor sent to multiqueue devices.
> 
> Eg, driver can keep processing skbs and put to the correct tx_queue
> as long as mapping remains the same. If the mapping changes, it posts
> earlier skbs (with the correct lock) and then iterates for the other
> skbs that have the next different mapping, and so on.

The complexity in most of these suggestions is beginning to drive me a
bit crazy :-)

This should be the simplest thing in the world, when TX queue has
space, give it packets.  Period.

When I hear suggestions like "have the driver pick the queue in
->hard_start_xmit() and return some special status if the queue
becomes different".....  you know, I really begin to wonder :-)

If we have to go back, get into the queueing layer locks, have these
special cases, and whatnot, what's the point?

This code should eventually be able to run lockless all the way to the
TX queue handling code of the driver.  The queueing code should know
what TX queue the packet will be bound for, and always precisely
invoke the driver in a state where the driver can accept the packet.

Ignore LLTX, it sucks, it was a big mistake, and we will get rid of
it.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-09 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-08 18:26 [PATCH 2/3][NET_BATCH] net core use batching jamal
2007-10-08 19:46 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-10-08 20:48   ` jamal
2007-10-08 21:26     ` [ofa-general] " David Miller
2007-10-08 22:34       ` jamal
2007-10-08 22:36         ` [ofa-general] " Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-10-08 22:33     ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-10-08 23:40       ` jamal
2007-10-09  1:13         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09  1:41           ` [ofa-general] " David Miller
2007-10-09  2:01             ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09  2:03               ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09  2:04                 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09  2:15                   ` jamal
2007-10-09  2:16                     ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09  2:19                       ` [ofa-general] " jamal
2007-10-09  2:20                         ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09  2:45                   ` [ofa-general] " David Miller
2007-10-09  2:43                 ` David Miller
2007-10-09  2:46                   ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09  2:12             ` [ofa-general] " Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09  2:46               ` David Miller
2007-10-09 18:48               ` [ofa-general] " Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-10-09 19:04                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09 19:07                   ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-10-09  2:14             ` [ofa-general] " jamal
2007-10-09  2:16               ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09  2:47                 ` [ofa-general] " David Miller
2007-10-09 16:51             ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-09 18:22               ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-10-09 18:30                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-09 20:43               ` David Miller
2007-10-09 20:53                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-10-09 21:22                   ` David Miller
2007-10-09 21:56                     ` jamal
2007-10-10  0:04                       ` David Miller
2007-10-10  0:37                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-10  0:50                           ` David Miller
2007-10-10  9:16                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-10  9:25                               ` David Miller
2007-10-10 10:23                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-10 10:44                                   ` David Miller
2007-10-10 13:08                                     ` jamal
2007-10-10 22:37                                       ` David Miller
2007-10-10 15:35                                     ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-10-10 16:02                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-10 16:42                                         ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-10-10  9:53                               ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-12 16:08                           ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2007-10-12 17:05                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-10-12 18:29                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-12 18:27                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-10 16:02                         ` Bill Fink
2007-10-10 22:53                           ` David Miller
2007-10-11  6:52                 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-10-09  1:31         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09 10:58       ` [ofa-general] " Krishna Kumar2
2007-10-09 11:02         ` David Miller [this message]
2007-10-09 11:20           ` [ofa-general] " Krishna Kumar2
2007-10-09 11:21           ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-10-09 11:24             ` David Miller
2007-10-09 12:44               ` [ofa-general] " Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09 12:55                 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-09 13:00                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09 20:14                 ` David Miller
2007-10-09 20:20                   ` [ofa-general] " Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09 21:25                     ` David Miller
2007-10-09 20:22               ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 20:51                 ` David Miller
2007-10-09 21:40                   ` Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 22:44                   ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 22:46                     ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 1/4] IPoIB: Fix unused variable warning Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 22:47                       ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 2/4] ibm_emac: Convert to use napi_struct independent of struct net_device Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 22:47                       ` [PATCH 3/4] ibm_new_emac: Nuke SET_MODULE_OWNER() use Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 22:48                       ` [PATCH 4/4] ibm_emac: Convert to use napi_struct independent of struct net_device Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 22:51                         ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 23:17                       ` [PATCH 1/4] IPoIB: Fix unused variable warning David Miller
2007-10-10  0:32                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-10  0:47                       ` [ofa-general] " Jeff Garzik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-08  5:03 [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH 2/3][NET_BATCH] net core use batching Krishna Kumar2
2007-10-08 13:17 ` jamal
2007-09-14  9:00 [PATCH 0/10 REV5] Implement skb batching and support in IPoIB/E1000 Krishna Kumar
2007-09-16 23:17 ` [ofa-general] " David Miller
2007-09-17  0:29   ` jamal
2007-09-23 17:53     ` [PATCHES] TX batching jamal
2007-09-23 17:56       ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 1/4] [NET_SCHED] explict hold dev tx lock jamal
2007-09-23 17:58         ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 2/4] [NET_BATCH] Introduce batching interface jamal
2007-09-23 18:00           ` [PATCH 3/4][NET_BATCH] net core use batching jamal
2007-09-30 18:52             ` [ofa-general] [PATCH 2/3][NET_BATCH] " jamal
2007-10-01  4:11               ` Bill Fink
2007-10-01 13:30                 ` jamal
2007-10-02  4:25                   ` [ofa-general] " Bill Fink
2007-10-02 13:20                     ` jamal
2007-10-03  5:29                       ` [ofa-general] " Bill Fink
2007-10-03 13:42                         ` jamal

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