From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] [1/9] Core module symbol namespaces code and intro.
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:25:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071127212558.GA27481@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071127210942.GF3406@stusta.de>
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:09:42PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:00:37PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:25:33AM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >
> > > 1) Why is everyone so concerned that export symbol space is large?
> > > - does it cost cpu or running memory?
> > > - does it cause bugs?
> > > - or are you just worried about "evil modules"?
> >
> > To clarify something here, by "evil", don't necessarily think "binary only".
> >
> > Out of tree modules are frequently using symbols that they shouldn't be.
> > Because they get no peer-review here, they 'get away with it' for the most part.
> > Until distro vendors push rebased kernel updates that removed exports that
> > should never have been exported, and suddenly people like me get bombed
> > with "Fedora broke my xyz driver" mails.
> >...
>
> The real problem is that these drivers are not in the upstream kernel.
You're preaching to the choir.
> Are there common reasons why these drivers are not upstream?
It varies case by case.
Dave
--
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-27 21:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-22 2:43 [PATCH RFC] [1/9] Core module symbol namespaces code and intro Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [2/9] Fix duplicate symbol check to also check future gpl and unused symbols Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [3/9] modpost: Declare the modpost error functions as printf like Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 18:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-12-10 18:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-12 1:37 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [4/9] modpost: Fix format string warnings Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 18:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [5/9] modpost: Fix a buffer overflow in modpost Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 19:32 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-12-10 19:57 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-10 20:07 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [6/9] Implement namespace checking " Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [7/9] Convert TCP exports into namespaces Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [8/9] Put UDP exports into a namespace Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 2:43 ` [PATCH RFC] [9/9] Add a inet namespace Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 3:03 ` [PATCH RFC] [1/9] Core module symbol namespaces code and intro Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-22 3:37 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 3:52 ` Dave Jones
2007-11-22 3:56 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22 8:41 ` Dave Young
2007-11-22 18:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-23 2:06 ` Dave Young
2007-11-22 11:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-23 0:25 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-23 1:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-23 3:35 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-23 19:53 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-24 4:53 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-24 12:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-26 1:23 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22 11:46 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-23 0:29 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-25 20:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-26 1:25 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-26 5:58 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-27 4:26 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-27 10:50 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 13:58 ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-27 14:12 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 14:36 ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-27 20:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-28 1:34 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-22 11:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-22 11:54 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 12:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-22 12:01 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-11-22 18:17 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-25 20:27 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-26 1:28 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-26 6:15 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-27 4:49 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-27 5:35 ` Tom Tucker
2007-11-27 9:02 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 17:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-27 17:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-27 17:45 ` Tom Tucker
2007-11-27 18:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-28 1:27 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-28 4:12 ` Tom Tucker
2007-11-27 15:43 ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-11-27 15:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 16:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-27 22:31 ` Jon Masters
[not found] ` <1196202698.3415.119.camel@jcmlaptop>
2007-11-27 22:37 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-27 23:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-27 23:06 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-28 16:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-28 17:31 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-26 18:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-26 22:18 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-27 19:00 ` Dave Jones
[not found] ` <20071127210942.GF3406@stusta.de>
2007-11-27 21:15 ` Rick Jones
2007-11-27 21:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-28 2:01 ` Rick Jones
2007-11-27 21:25 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2007-11-27 23:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-29 16:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-30 2:18 ` Rusty Russell
2007-11-29 9:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-29 10:00 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-29 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
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