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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au
Cc: simon@fire.lp0.eu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sockets affected by IPsec always block (2.6.23)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:55:58 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071205.015558.224988608.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071205073927.GA12413@gondor.apana.org.au>

From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:39:27 +1100

> On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 11:34:32PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> > 
> > TCP has some built-in assumptions about characteristics of
> > interent links and what constitutes a timeout which is "too long"
> > and should thus result in a full connection failure.
> > 
> > IPSEC changes this because of IPSEC route resolution via
> > ISAKMP.
> > 
> > With this in mind I can definitely see people preferring
> > the "block until IPSEC resolves" behavior, especially for
> > something like, say, periodic remote backups and stuff like
> > that where you really want the thing to just sit and wait
> > for the connect() to succeed instead of failing.
> 
> Hmm, but connect(2) should succeed in that case thanks to the
> blackhole route, no? The subsequent SYNs will then be dropped
> until the IPsec SAs are in place.

If it hits sysctl_tcp_syn_retries SYN attempts, the connect will hard
fail.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-05  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-04 18:53 sockets affected by IPsec always block (2.6.23) Simon Arlott
2007-12-05  0:12 ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-05  6:30   ` David Miller
2007-12-05  6:51     ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-05  7:12       ` David Miller
2007-12-05  7:16         ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-05  7:34           ` David Miller
2007-12-05  7:39             ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-05  9:55               ` David Miller [this message]
2007-12-05  9:57                 ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-05 18:42         ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-05 18:39       ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-06  2:25         ` David Miller
2007-12-06  8:49           ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-06  8:53             ` David Miller
2007-12-06 10:56               ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-06 11:13                 ` David Miller
2007-12-06 11:35                   ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-06 11:39                     ` David Miller
2007-12-06 12:30                       ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-06 13:55                         ` David Miller
2007-12-06 14:31                           ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-07  3:20                             ` David Miller
2007-12-07  9:29                               ` Stefan Rompf
2007-12-16 22:47     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-16 23:22       ` David Miller
2007-12-05  6:06 ` David Miller

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