From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Disable TSO for non standard qdiscs
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:01:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080131190125.GE4671@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47A211A0.1040502@trash.net>
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 07:21:20PM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>Then change TBF to use skb_gso_segment? Be careful, the fact that
> >
> >That doesn't help because it wants to interleave packets
> >from different streams to get everything fair and smooth. The only
> >good way to handle that is to split it up and the simplest way to do
> >this is to just tell TCP to not do GSO in the first place.
>
>
> Thats not correct, TBF keeps packets strictly ordered unless
My point was that without TSO different submitters will interleave
their streams (because they compete about the qdisc submission)
and then you end up with a smooth rate over time for all of them.
If you submit in large chunks only (as TSO does) it will always
be more bursty and that works against the TBF goal.
For a single submitter you would be correct.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-31 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-31 12:46 [PATCH] Disable TSO for non standard qdiscs Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 17:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-01-31 18:33 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-01-31 18:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-01-31 18:11 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-01-31 18:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-01-31 19:01 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-01-31 18:47 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-01-31 19:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 19:39 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-01-31 23:10 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-01-31 23:42 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01 4:26 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01 4:35 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01 4:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 20:33 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-31 23:04 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-01 7:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-01 9:28 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01 21:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-01 5:01 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01 6:35 ` Glen Turner
2008-02-01 6:46 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01 7:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01 7:25 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01 9:37 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01 9:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01 12:06 ` jamal
2008-02-01 19:02 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01 22:56 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-02 1:51 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-02 5:20 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01 14:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01 17:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-01-31 18:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-02 22:57 ` Herbert Xu
2008-02-03 9:35 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:26 ` Rick Jones
2008-01-31 19:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:35 ` Rick Jones
2008-01-31 19:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 19:14 ` Rick Jones
2008-02-01 1:04 ` Andy Furniss
2008-02-01 4:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-02 22:59 ` Herbert Xu
2008-02-01 21:58 ` Rick Jones
2008-02-02 4:10 ` Andi Kleen
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