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From: "John W. Linville" <linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
	sam-uyr5N9Q2VtJg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	dsd-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC v2] introduce ARCH_CAN_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Kconfig symbol
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:03:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080320220348.GC1330@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1206048106.16475.161.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:21:46PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> 
> > I think you're semantically testing the wrong thing.
> > 
> > It's not if unaligned accesses are supported, it's if they are
> > efficient enough or not.
> > 
> > For example, sparc64 fully handles unaligned accesses but taking the
> > trap to fix it up is slow.  So sparc64 "can" handle unaligned
> > accesses, but whether we want to set this symbol or not is another
> > matter.
> 
> Yeah, good point. Should I rename it to HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS
> or similar? Or have it defined as some sort of number so you can make
> actually make tradeoffs? Like Dave Woodhouse suggested at some point to
> have get_unaligned() take an argument that indicates the probability...

Ugh...that sounds like premature optimization to me...

While I think Dave has a point, I don't think you should labor the word
choice too much.  Try to document it as clearly as possible and hope
for the best -- I hear that the arch maintainers are top notch! :-)

John

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20 14:34 [PATCH/RFC] introduce ARCH_CAN_UNALIGNED_ACCESS Kconfig symbol Johannes Berg
     [not found] ` <1206023695.16475.137.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:39   ` Will Newton
     [not found]     ` <87a5b0800803200739v6d222afck850f221eae1edd70-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:58       ` Johannes Berg
2008-03-20 18:13 ` Sam Ravnborg
     [not found]   ` <20080320181310.GA17884-QabhHTsIXMSnlFQ6Q1D1Y0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 18:35     ` Johannes Berg
2008-03-20 18:39   ` [PATCH/RFC v2] " Johannes Berg
     [not found]     ` <1206038373.16475.150.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 18:45       ` [PATCH/RFC v3] " Johannes Berg
2008-03-20 19:09         ` Harvey Harrison
2008-03-20 19:12           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <1206038734.16475.153.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 19:41           ` Sam Ravnborg
     [not found]             ` <20080320194101.GC17884-QabhHTsIXMSnlFQ6Q1D1Y0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 19:50               ` [PATCH/RFC v4] introduce HAVE_UNALIGNED_ACCESS_SUPPORT " Johannes Berg
2008-03-21  8:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-20 21:13     ` [PATCH/RFC v2] introduce ARCH_CAN_UNALIGNED_ACCESS " David Miller
     [not found]       ` <20080320.141307.173590705.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 21:21         ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]           ` <1206048106.16475.161.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 21:27             ` David Miller
2008-03-20 22:03             ` John W. Linville [this message]
     [not found]               ` <20080320220348.GC1330-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 22:10                 ` David Miller
2008-03-25 14:11       ` [PATCH/RFC v5] introduce HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS " Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <1206454302.16475.269.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-02 10:24           ` Johannes Berg

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