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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: mingo@elte.hu
Cc: dada1@cosmosbay.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH] loopback: calls netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx()
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:02:42 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080331.040242.214941948.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080331104403.GA12681@elte.hu>

From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:44:03 +0200

> and it's not just about scalability, the plain algorithmic overhead is 
> way too high as well:
> 
>  $ taskset 1 ./bw_tcp -s
>  $ taskset 1 ./bw_tcp localhost
>  Socket bandwidth using localhost: 2607.09 MB/sec
>  $ taskset 1 ./bw_pipe
>  Pipe bandwidth: 3680.44 MB/sec

Set your loopback MTU to some larger value if this result and
the locking overhead upsets you.

Also, woe be to the application that wants fast local interprocess
communication and doesn't use IPC_SHM, MAP_SHARED, pipes, or AF_UNIX
sockets.  (there's not just one better facility, there are _four_!)

>From this perspective, people way-overemphasize loopback performance,
and 999 times out of 1000 they prove their points using synthetic
benchmarks.

And don't give me this garbage about the application wanting to be
generic and therefore use IP sockets for everything.  Either they want
to be generic, or they want the absolute best performance.  Trying
to get an "or" and have both at the same time will result in
ludicrious hacks ending up in the kernel.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-31 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-21 18:51 [RFC,PATCH] loopback: calls netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx() Eric Dumazet
2008-02-21 20:14 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-02-21 23:19   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-02-22 10:19     ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-02-27  2:21 ` David Miller
2008-02-27  7:20   ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-27  7:23     ` David Miller
2008-02-27  7:34       ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-03-01 10:26   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-04  4:55     ` David Miller
2008-03-04  5:15       ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-04  6:27       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-23 10:29     ` David Miller
2008-03-23 18:48       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-23 19:15         ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-29  1:36         ` David Miller
2008-03-29  8:18           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-29 23:54             ` David Miller
2008-03-31  6:38               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-31  9:48         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-31 10:01           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-31 10:12             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-01  9:19               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-04-03 14:06                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-03 16:19                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-31 10:08           ` David Miller
2008-03-31 10:44             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-31 11:02               ` David Miller [this message]
2008-03-31 11:36                 ` poor network loopback performance and scalability (was: Re: [RFC,PATCH] loopback: calls netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx()) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-21  3:24                   ` Herbert Xu
2008-04-21  3:38                     ` poor network loopback performance and scalability David Miller
2008-04-21  8:11                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-21  8:16                         ` David Miller
2008-04-21 10:19                           ` Herbert Xu
2008-04-21 10:22                             ` David Miller

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