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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: GFP_ATOMIC page allocation failures.
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:33:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080402103355.77ef22ff.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47F3C0A8.9090300@garzik.org>

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:21:44 -0400 Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:

> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > The appropriate thing to do here is to convert known-good drivers (such as
> > e1000[e]) to use __GFP_NOWARN.
> > 
> > Unfortunately netdev_alloc_skb() went and assumed GFP_ATOMIC, but I guess
> > we can dive below the covers and use __netdev_alloc_skb():
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > 
> > We get rather a lot of reports of page allocation warnings coming out of
> > e1000.  But this driver is know to handle them properly so let's suppress
> > them.
> 
> 
> Do you people hear what you're saying???
> 
> I respectfully but strongly disagree with this.
> 
> We do __not__ need a whitelist (__GFP_NOWARN) of drivers that handle 
> allocation failures properly.  That's a long list, a maintenance 
> nightmare, and it is punishing good behavior.
> 
> It has been true for over a decade that allocations should be checked 
> for NULL, and GFP_ATOMIC allocations MUST be checked for NULL.
> 
> Let's not crap all over good drivers, because a few bad apples don't 
> have the proper checks.
> 
> Or at the very least, this TOTALLY BOGUS spew from working drivers 
> should not be foisted upon users.  Every time a working driver complains 
> about this -- as in the examples here -- the value of the warning 
> decreases to noise.
> 
> And the solution to noise is not _more noise_ (adding 'nowarn' to every 
> damn driver in the kernel).
> 

After you've read Nick's comments (which I pray you have not), and after
you've convinced us and yourself of their wrongness, you might like to
consider adding a __GFP_NOWARN to netdev_alloc_skb().


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-02 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080401235609.GA6947@codemonkey.org.uk>
     [not found] ` <200804021228.16875.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
     [not found] ` <47F32789.2070703@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20080402005646.f8df1c1b.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2008-04-02  8:17     ` GFP_ATOMIC page allocation failures KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-02  8:24       ` David Miller
2008-04-02  8:43         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-02 10:00         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-02 10:56           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-02 18:44             ` David Miller
2008-04-02 20:12               ` Michael Chan
2008-04-02 20:53                 ` David Miller
2008-04-02 11:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-02 18:45           ` David Miller
2008-04-02 19:06             ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]     ` <200804022012.58760.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2008-04-02 15:54       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-03  5:22         ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-03  5:32           ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-03  8:59             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-26 21:06               ` Dave Jones
2008-06-26 22:26                 ` Chris Snook
2008-06-27 10:01                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-02 17:21     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-02 17:33       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-04-02 18:18         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-02 18:37           ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-03  5:57           ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-03 18:20             ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found] <adYyJ-20N-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <aef6w-6rx-45@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <aefJ9-7KR-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <aeqF6-45P-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-04  9:52       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-04 10:59         ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-04 11:35           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-05  1:06             ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-06 12:12               ` Bodo Eggert

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