From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru
Cc: lkml@rtr.ca, ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi, jesper.juhl@gmail.com,
tilman@imap.cc, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org,
rjw@sisk.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:07:02 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080411.110702.146231359.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080411151821.GA32398@2ka.mipt.ru>
From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:18:21 +0400
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:59:57AM -0400, Mark Lord (lkml@rtr.ca) wrote:
> > >If you do not care about bug, why do you ever bothered filling it?
> > ..
> >
> > Because I care, about Linux's reputation and performance.
> > I care about basic networking operations, and knew that this bug
> > would probably affect other applications once widely deployed.
> >
> > I care about Linux. That's why.
>
> Blah-blah-blah, you care so much, that pissed people off which suggested
> you how to really help Linux. And then you returned with besiect
> results. You helped, but if you just cared, you had missed first part.
Every time I see someone play the "I care about Linux" card, they are
typically being a hypocrit. It's a knee jerk, defensive gesture, and
usually has absolutely zero substance.
> > The current generation of kernel "code submitters" here
> > seems to have never learned those. Bummer.
>
> Next time I will ask soothsayer, she really knows how to debug network
> bug with following description: "it worked before I changed a kernel
> version. you have to return my puppets back".
Thanks for your support Evgeniy, it is truly appreciated.
We had Mark's bug fixed in 15 minutes once the bisect result was
known, even after Ilpo and myself had scanned through the changesets.
This proves the utility of bisect and in fact that trying to intuit
the cause by continuing to study changesets and code would have been a
complete waste of time.
Yes, Mark, we used to do things that way for every bug in the kernel.
And as a result many bugs sat unfixed for weeks if not months. Many
of us have left the cave, feel free to join us.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-11 18:07 UTC|newest]
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2008-04-11 0:16 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:24 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:27 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 1:23 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 6:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 13:19 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 14:59 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 15:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 18:07 ` David Miller [this message]
2008-04-11 21:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 8:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-12 9:49 ` David Miller
2008-04-13 18:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:51 ` Sergio Luis
2008-04-13 19:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:16 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 22:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 22:27 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 23:23 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-12 5:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 7:06 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 22:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:27 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-13 18:40 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-13 19:18 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-13 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 19:47 ` Reporting bugs and bisection David Miller
2008-04-13 20:21 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 20:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 22:24 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Stephen Clark
2008-04-13 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:51 ` david
2008-04-14 0:36 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-14 4:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 5:39 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 6:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 6:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 6:43 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 7:23 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 7:43 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 8:30 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-14 9:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 5:25 ` Bill Fink
2008-04-14 10:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 10:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 17:35 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-04-14 12:08 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 14:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 17:51 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 18:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 19:30 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-14 15:54 ` James Morris
2008-04-14 22:01 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 23:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15 4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-15 13:18 ` Work WAS(Re: " jamal
2008-04-15 9:33 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 9:54 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-15 14:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 2:34 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 3:53 ` david
2008-04-16 9:06 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 11:02 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-16 12:41 ` Stephen Clark
2008-04-16 4:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 12:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 12:15 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 13:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:02 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-16 19:43 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 19:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-17 13:50 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-17 15:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:58 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-16 20:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 19:39 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 20:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 21:05 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 21:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 20:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 21:17 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-17 17:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-17 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-17 19:35 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 19:57 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-17 20:16 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 20:38 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 20:53 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 21:01 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-14 19:13 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 20:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 22:18 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 9:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 10:18 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-14 10:29 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:10 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 9:58 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-14 10:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 10:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 21:53 ` about bisections (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 22:30 ` about bisections David Miller
2008-04-15 22:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 0:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 1:08 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:29 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 2:59 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-11 3:18 ` [PATCH 2.6.25] net sockets: fix timewait namespace regression Mark Lord
2008-04-11 3:51 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 7:50 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Pavel Emelyanov
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2008-04-10 23:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:51 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-18 8:32 ` David Miller
2008-04-19 8:07 ` vincent-perrier
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2008-04-10 21:05 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 21:43 ` Ilpo Järvinen
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