From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Cc: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>,
"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
jesper.juhl@gmail.com, tilman@imap.cc, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
"Jeff Garzik" <jeff@garzik.org>,
rjw@sisk.pl, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:18:21 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080411151821.GA32398@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47FF7CED.9090601@rtr.ca>
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:59:57AM -0400, Mark Lord (lkml@rtr.ca) wrote:
> >If you do not care about bug, why do you ever bothered filling it?
> ..
>
> Because I care, about Linux's reputation and performance.
> I care about basic networking operations, and knew that this bug
> would probably affect other applications once widely deployed.
>
> I care about Linux. That's why.
Blah-blah-blah, you care so much, that pissed people off which suggested
you how to really help Linux. And then you returned with besiect
results. You helped, but if you just cared, you had missed first part.
> >If you do not want to help fixing it ...
>
> Where the hell did I *ever* say that?
> I did nothing but offer help, and respond quickly.
Citations:
> So you will likely need to bisect.
Or I can ignore it, like the net developers, since I have a workaround.
And then we'll see what other apps are broken upon 2.6.25 final release.
*Somebody* is responsible for those changes.
That particular *somebody* ought to volunteer some help here,
reducing the mountain of commits to a big handful or two.
-----
I can proceed - just reread a thread.
> The one thing I did not have time for initially,
> was a painstaking blunt instrument binary search of
> every commit since v2.6.24.
If you do not know math, binary search takes log2(N), so you
would only need to check at most around dozen commits. That's lot
of time to run 'git bisect good/bad', especially for man, who
"care about Linux".
> There are other ways to debug things and find the causes
> quickly, with less impact upon the reporters of bugs.
I know one. It is guessing.
I will start: did you start hearing voices after 2.6.24 upgrade?
Or did you observed meteorites hitting wires between you machines?
> The current generation of kernel "code submitters" here
> seems to have never learned those. Bummer.
Next time I will ask soothsayer, she really knows how to debug network
bug with following description: "it worked before I changed a kernel
version. you have to return my puppets back".
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
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[not found] ` <9a8748490804101509l5d043ff8w565dc44dfeaf0072@mail.gmail.com>
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2008-04-11 0:16 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:24 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:27 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 1:23 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 6:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 13:19 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 14:59 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 15:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2008-04-11 18:07 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 21:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 8:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-12 9:49 ` David Miller
2008-04-13 18:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:51 ` Sergio Luis
2008-04-13 19:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:16 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 22:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 22:27 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 23:23 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-12 5:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 7:06 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 22:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:27 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-13 18:40 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-13 19:18 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-13 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 19:47 ` Reporting bugs and bisection David Miller
2008-04-13 20:21 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 20:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 22:24 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Stephen Clark
2008-04-13 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:51 ` david
2008-04-14 0:36 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-14 4:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 5:39 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 6:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 6:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 6:43 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 7:23 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 7:43 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 8:30 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-14 9:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 5:25 ` Bill Fink
2008-04-14 10:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 10:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 17:35 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-04-14 12:08 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 14:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 17:51 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 18:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 19:30 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-14 15:54 ` James Morris
2008-04-14 22:01 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 23:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15 4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-15 13:18 ` Work WAS(Re: " jamal
2008-04-15 9:33 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 9:54 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-15 14:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 2:34 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 3:53 ` david
2008-04-16 9:06 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 11:02 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-16 12:41 ` Stephen Clark
2008-04-16 4:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 12:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 12:15 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 13:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:02 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-16 19:43 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 19:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-17 13:50 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-17 15:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:58 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-16 20:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 19:39 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 20:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 21:05 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 21:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 20:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 21:17 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-17 17:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-17 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-17 19:35 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 19:57 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-17 20:16 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 20:38 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 20:53 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 21:01 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-14 19:13 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 20:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 22:18 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 9:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 10:18 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-14 10:29 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:10 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 9:58 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-14 10:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 10:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 21:53 ` about bisections (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 22:30 ` about bisections David Miller
2008-04-15 22:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 0:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 1:08 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:29 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 2:59 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-11 3:18 ` [PATCH 2.6.25] net sockets: fix timewait namespace regression Mark Lord
2008-04-11 3:51 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 7:50 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Pavel Emelyanov
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2008-04-10 23:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:51 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-18 8:32 ` David Miller
2008-04-19 8:07 ` vincent-perrier
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2008-04-10 20:46 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-10 21:05 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 21:43 ` Ilpo Järvinen
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