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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: johnwheffner@gmail.com
Cc: rick.jones2@hp.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Socket buffer sizes with autotuning
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:59:45 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080422.205945.229828014.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e41a3230804221917m4af32ed9ice8225c943d3ffa2@mail.gmail.com>

From: "John Heffner" <johnwheffner@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:17:39 -0700

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> wrote:
> >  oslowest:~# netstat -an | grep ESTAB
> >  ...
> >  tcp    0 2760560 10.208.0.1:40500    10.208.0.45:42049   ESTABLISHED
> >  ...
> >
> >  Is this expected behaviour?
> 
> What is your interface txqueuelen and mtu?  If you have a very large
> interface queue, TCP will happily fill it up unless you are using a
> delay-based congestion controller.

Yes, that's the fundamental problem with loss based congestion
control.  If there are any queues in the path, TCP will fill them up.

Vegas and other similar techniques are able to avoid this, but come
with the fundamental flaw that it's easy to get them into situations
where they do not respond to increases in pipe space adequately, and
thus underperform compared to loss based algorithms.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-23  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-23  0:38 Socket buffer sizes with autotuning Rick Jones
2008-04-23  2:17 ` John Heffner
2008-04-23  3:59   ` David Miller [this message]
2008-04-23 16:32     ` Rick Jones
2008-04-23 16:58       ` John Heffner
2008-04-23 17:24         ` Rick Jones
2008-04-23 17:41           ` John Heffner
2008-04-23 17:46             ` Rick Jones
2008-04-24 22:21     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 22:39       ` John Heffner
2008-04-25  1:28       ` David Miller
     [not found]       ` <65634d660804242234w66455bedve44801a98e3de9d9@mail.gmail.com>
2008-04-25  6:36         ` David Miller
2008-04-25  7:42           ` Tom Herbert
2008-04-25  7:46             ` David Miller
2008-04-28 17:51               ` Tom Herbert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-23 23:29 Jerry Chu
2008-04-24 16:32 ` John Heffner
2008-04-25  0:49   ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-25  6:46     ` David Miller
2008-04-25 21:29       ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-25 21:35         ` David Miller
2008-04-28 18:30       ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-28 19:21         ` John Heffner
2008-04-28 20:44           ` Jerry Chu
     [not found]           ` <d1c2719f0804281338j3984cf2bga31def0c2c1192a1@mail.gmail.com>
2008-04-28 23:28             ` John Heffner
2008-04-28 23:35               ` David Miller
2008-04-29  2:20               ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-25  7:05 ` David Miller
2008-05-07  3:57   ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-07  4:27     ` David Miller
2008-05-07 18:36       ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-07 21:18         ` David Miller
2008-05-08  1:37           ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-08  1:43             ` David Miller
2008-05-08  3:33               ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 22:22                 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 22:29                   ` David Miller
2008-05-12 22:31                     ` David Miller
2008-05-13  3:56                       ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-13  3:58                         ` David Miller
2008-05-13  4:00                           ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-13  4:02                             ` David Miller
2008-05-17  1:13                               ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-17  1:29                                 ` David Miller
2008-05-17  1:47                                   ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 22:58                     ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 23:01                       ` David Miller
2008-05-07  4:28     ` David Miller
2008-05-07 18:54       ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-07 21:20         ` David Miller
2008-05-08  0:16           ` Jerry Chu
     [not found] <d1c2719f0804241829s1bc3f41ejf7ebbff73ed96578@mail.gmail.com>
2008-04-25  7:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25  7:28   ` David Miller
2008-04-25  7:48     ` Andi Kleen

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