* Re: Bug in random32.c: all-zero outputs with probability 1/2^32, other seeding bugs
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@ 2008-07-02 0:34 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-02 3:22 ` Matt Mackall
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2008-07-02 0:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Benoit Boissinot
Cc: linux-kernel, lloyd, Theodore Ts'o, Matt Mackall, netdev
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:19:27 +0200
Benoit Boissinot <bboissin@gmail.com> wrote:
> [who maintains random32.c ?]
ah. I think it's ancient net code which was recently hoisted into lib/.
So: not really anybody.
I've been hopefully cc'ing Matt and Ted in the hope of fooling them
into looking at it. But a netdev cc is appropriate also.
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Jack Lloyd <lloyd@randombit.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There appears to be an error in how random seeding is done in the
> > random32.c RNG. I am looking at 2.6.25.7.
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > An easy and straightforward fix for this that doesn't require changing
> > any interfaces is to add
> > s &= 0xFFFFFFFF;
> > before the check in __set_random32, which ensures this condition will
> > be caught by the check. Alternately, you could replace the check for
> > s == 0 with some logic like:
> > if((s & 0xFFFFFFFF) == 0)
> > s += 1;
> > since just chopping the seed to 32 bits does throw away some of your
> > seed input (with sizeof(long) == 8, at least; doesn't make any
> > difference for sizeof(long) == 4)
> >
>
> I think it is cleaner to change the interface to account for long != u32
>
> The rest of your patch (ensuring values are big enough) looks valid to me.
>
> Signed-off-by: Benoit Boissinot <benoit.boissinot@ens-lyon.org>
>
> diff -r ced66ca0044f lib/random32.c
> --- a/lib/random32.c Mon Jun 30 08:58:09 2008 -0700
> +++ b/lib/random32.c Wed Jul 02 01:13:12 2008 +0200
> @@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
> return (state->s1 ^ state->s2 ^ state->s3);
> }
>
> -static void __set_random32(struct rnd_state *state, unsigned long s)
> +static void __set_random32(struct rnd_state *state, u32 s)
> {
> if (s == 0)
> s = 1; /* default seed is 1 */
> @@ -84,7 +84,7 @@
> */
> u32 random32(void)
> {
> - unsigned long r;
> + u32 r;
> struct rnd_state *state = &get_cpu_var(net_rand_state);
> r = __random32(state);
> put_cpu_var(state);
> @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@
>
> for_each_possible_cpu(i) {
> struct rnd_state *state = &per_cpu(net_rand_state,i);
> - __set_random32(state, i + jiffies);
> + __set_random32(state, (u32) i + jiffies);
> }
> return 0;
> }
> @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@
> static int __init random32_reseed(void)
> {
> int i;
> - unsigned long seed;
> + u32 seed;
>
> for_each_possible_cpu(i) {
> struct rnd_state *state = &per_cpu(net_rand_state,i);
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* Re: Bug in random32.c: all-zero outputs with probability 1/2^32, other seeding bugs
2008-07-02 0:34 ` Bug in random32.c: all-zero outputs with probability 1/2^32, other seeding bugs Andrew Morton
@ 2008-07-02 3:22 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-02 16:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Matt Mackall @ 2008-07-02 3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Morton
Cc: Benoit Boissinot, linux-kernel, lloyd, Theodore Ts'o, netdev
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:34 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:19:27 +0200
> Benoit Boissinot <bboissin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > [who maintains random32.c ?]
>
> ah. I think it's ancient net code which was recently hoisted into lib/.
> So: not really anybody.
>
> I've been hopefully cc'ing Matt and Ted in the hope of fooling them
> into looking at it. But a netdev cc is appropriate also.
I did look at it, and it looks reasonable. So:
Acked-by: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Stephen Hemminger is responsible for the original code, I believe. I've
been tempted to slurp this functionality into random.c but keep getting
side-tracked into theoretical investigations of better functions, as I'm
not a big fan of the current one from either a performance or strength
perspective.
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
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* Re: Bug in random32.c: all-zero outputs with probability 1/2^32, other seeding bugs
2008-07-02 3:22 ` Matt Mackall
@ 2008-07-02 16:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2008-07-02 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Mackall
Cc: Andrew Morton, Benoit Boissinot, linux-kernel, lloyd,
Theodore Ts'o, netdev
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:22:31 -0500
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:34 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:19:27 +0200
> > Benoit Boissinot <bboissin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > [who maintains random32.c ?]
> >
> > ah. I think it's ancient net code which was recently hoisted into lib/.
> > So: not really anybody.
> >
> > I've been hopefully cc'ing Matt and Ted in the hope of fooling them
> > into looking at it. But a netdev cc is appropriate also.
>
> I did look at it, and it looks reasonable. So:
>
> Acked-by: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
>
> Stephen Hemminger is responsible for the original code, I believe. I've
> been tempted to slurp this functionality into random.c but keep getting
> side-tracked into theoretical investigations of better functions, as I'm
> not a big fan of the current one from either a performance or strength
> perspective.
>
Yes, I took it from gnu scientific lib it for use in netem. The seeding
fixes make sense.
Note: this should not be a security issue since this routine is explicitly
not intended for cryptographic use.
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