From: Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>
To: Patrick Ohly <patrick.ohly@intel.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/1] net: support for hardware timestamping
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:49:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200807291849.24945.opurdila@ixiacom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217343163.30512.34.camel@ecld0pohly>
Hi Patrick,
Thanks for taking the time to go over this.
> > New socket option and socket control message are added as well
> > (SO_TIMESTAMPHW and SCM_TIMESTAMPHW).
>
> How is a network driver notified that it is expected to do hardware time
> stamping? The connection between the socket option and the driver isn't
> quite clear to me (which might very well be due to my lack of experience
> in this area - please bear with me...).
I don't have much experience either so this might not be even close to a good
solution :)
> Is the driver expected to check
> the socket flags whenever it gets a chance?
>
If/when the driver chooses, it will start using hardware timestamps and the
hardware timestamp will always (or when possible) be stored in skb->tstamp.
Then, when copying the data in userspace, we will look at the socket flag and
if the socket has requested a hw timestamp we will directly copy the
skb->tstamp, otherwise if a regular timestamp has been requested, we will
convert it to a regular timestamp via the new added get_tstamp driver method.
I don't know if it is required to add an on/off switch for hardware
timestamping with this architecture, but if it is, we have some choices about
how to do this:
- via ethtool
- via new SIOCSHWTSTAMP{ON/OFF} ioctls
- via module parameters
> IMHO it would be necessary to attach this configuration change not just
> to a socket, but also to a message which is then routed to the right
> device driver.
>
> A simple on/off flag is not sufficient, either: for example, the Intel
> 82576 chip only has one RX register that is locked until read by the
> driver. When time stamping all incoming packets, relevant time stamps
> may get lost under high load. The hardware can be configured to only
> time stamp packets of interest, which helps considerably.
Ok, I see... How about adding a new SIOCSHWTSTAMPFILTER ioctl:
#define HWTSTAMP_FILTER_PTP_L2 0x01
#define HWTSTAMP_FILTER_PTP_L4 0x02
...
struct hwtstamp_filter {
char type;
};
If needed we could later expand hwtstamp_filter to include ether_types,
ip_types, udp/tcp ports, etc.
> It may also be
> important to know for the application whether the hardware is really
> capable of delivering what it is asked for.
>
I am not sure if I understood this, but the ioctl return code should do it,
right?
> > diff --git a/include/linux/skbuff.h b/include/linux/skbuff.h
> > index 299ec4b..f19ed43 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/skbuff.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/skbuff.h
> > @@ -199,7 +199,8 @@ typedef unsigned char *sk_buff_data_t;
> > * @next: Next buffer in list
> > * @prev: Previous buffer in list
> > * @sk: Socket we are owned by
> > - * @tstamp: Time we arrived
> > + * @tstamp: Time we arrived; representation might be hardware specific,
> > do + * not access directly but via skb_get_tstamp
>
> Given that the semantic of the "tstamp" member has changed and any
> existing code which still accesses it directly is broken, should the
> member perhaps be renamed to trigger compiler errors in such a case?
> Just a thought.
I am ok with that, but I don't know if this is an acceptable practice :)
BTW, the TX timestamps patch I've sent yesterday is also very closely related
to PTP, and since you have experience with PTP I am wondering how the
proposed interface looks to you.
Thanks,
tavi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-29 15:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-29 0:07 [RFC][PATCH 0/1] net: support for hardware timestamps Octavian Purdila
2008-07-29 0:08 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/1] net: support for hardware timestamping Octavian Purdila
2008-07-29 14:52 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-07-29 15:49 ` Octavian Purdila [this message]
2008-07-30 9:35 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-07-30 13:38 ` Octavian Purdila
2008-07-30 14:00 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-07-29 15:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-07-29 16:11 ` Octavian Purdila
2008-07-29 17:30 ` Ingo Oeser
2008-07-29 18:10 ` Octavian Purdila
2008-07-29 18:27 ` Ingo Oeser
2008-07-30 8:51 ` Patrick Ohly
2008-07-30 9:34 ` Ingo Oeser
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