From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: dwmw2@infradead.org
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com, shemminger@vyatta.com,
jeff@garzik.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, mpm@selenic.com
Subject: Re: [patch 12/12] Configure out ethtool support
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:43:38 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080731.034338.146687281.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217500776.3454.136.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:39:36 +0100
> We need to be moving towards a situation where people don't _need_ to
> patch the hell out of their kernels to make Linux viable for embedded
> devices. I'm not prepared just assume that 'they will always do so', and
> I'm disappointed to hear Andrew say such a thing.
It's simple economics, really.
Until they see value in upstream submission, it's always going
to be %100 invested in getting the current product out the door
or the current fire put out.
The odd I2C device hack of the day the do to one revision of their
product is likely never to be submitted upstream. And these
embedded folks have hundreds of things on that level that they
sort out for each product, and often very little of it is reusable
in the next product.
They don't see the payback for upstreaming this stuff, and for
a lot of cases neither do I.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-31 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-30 19:39 [patch 12/12] Configure out ethtool support akpm
2008-07-30 20:37 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-07-30 20:48 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-30 21:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-07-30 21:35 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-30 21:48 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-30 21:52 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-30 22:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-30 23:35 ` Roland Dreier
2008-07-30 21:57 ` David Miller
2008-07-30 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-30 22:33 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:39 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:43 ` David Miller [this message]
2008-07-31 10:49 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:47 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 15:36 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-31 15:59 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-07-31 16:11 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-31 18:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-07-30 21:35 ` David Miller
2008-07-30 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-30 22:24 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-30 22:37 ` David Miller
2008-07-30 23:05 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-30 23:21 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 1:10 ` Matt Mackall
2008-07-31 1:23 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:22 ` Kalle Valo
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