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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	emil.s.tantilov@intel.com, jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] NULL pointer dereference in skb_dequeue
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:26:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080811232657.GQ6762@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080811100126.GA6401@ff.dom.local>

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:01:26AM +0000, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> On 10-08-2008 21:04, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> ...
> > Hmm.. Actually, it's completely unreasonable. Let's forget this.
> 
> But accidentally it might even sometimes work here...
> 
> Currently, the most suspicious place to me seems to be
> __netif_schedule(). Is it legal to store RCU protected pointers out of
> rcu_read_lock() sections?

Yes, but:

1.	You need to use one of the update-side primitives to do the
	store: rcu_assign_pointer(), list_add_rcu(), etc.

2.	There has to be some way for multiple updaters to coordinate,
	for example:

	a.	Only a single task is permitted to update.

	b.	Locking is used to coordinate among multiple updaters
		(so that only one such updater may proceed at a given
		time).

	c.	Atomic operations are used to coordinate multiple
		updaters.  Here be dragons, go for (a) or (b)
		instead unless you have an extremely good reason
		-and- you have both a proof of correctness and
		a totally brutal and malign test suite.

The main reason to update RCU-protected pointers within rcu_read_lock()
regions is when sharing code between RCU readers and updaters, or when
an RCU reader can see the need to do an update.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-11 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01 23:40 [BUG] NULL pointer dereference in skb_dequeue Jeff Kirsher
2008-08-02  1:03 ` David Miller
2008-08-02  1:20   ` David Miller
2008-08-02  9:36     ` Tantilov, Emil S
2008-08-02 13:37       ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-02 16:27         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-02 19:18           ` David Miller
2008-08-02 19:22             ` David Miller
2008-08-02 19:45               ` Tantilov, Emil S
2008-08-02 21:46                 ` Tantilov, Emil S
2008-08-03  2:26                   ` David Miller
2008-08-08 19:38                     ` Tantilov, Emil S
2008-08-09  7:29                       ` David Miller
2008-08-09 22:32                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-10 19:04                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-11 10:01                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-11 23:26                               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-08-12  6:36                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 13:42                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-12 18:09                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 20:18                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-12 21:15                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 22:33                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-02 20:19             ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-03  9:29               ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-03  9:50                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-03  9:56                 ` David Miller
2008-08-03 10:08                   ` Jarek Poplawski

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