From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
jarkao2@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, denys@visp.net.lb
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock().
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:26:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080824192639.587f9391@speedy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080822124556.GA15788@gondor.apana.org.au>
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:45:57 +1000
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 05:18:41AM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> >
> > Netem is trying to create packet reordering by requeueing (which is
> > logically like a head insert) instead of enqueueing (which is
> > logically like a tail insert).
>
> Why does it use requeue when tfifo's enqueue will insert this
> at the front of the queue anyway based on time_to_send anyway?
>
> Perhaps it's trying to force reordering when the user replaces
> tfifo with some other qidsc? But that doesn't make sense since
> netem relies on tfifo to implement all the other features such
> as delay and jitter.
>
> So how about
>
> 1) Change netem_graft to disallow the replacement of tfifo;
> 2) Simply use enqueue instead of requeue in netem_enqueue?
>
> Cheers,
Tfifo is there only to add the jitter based reordering. Netem has other
better kinds of reordering as well.
Netem has to be able to put TBF in as a child qdisc. This is how loss
plus rate control is done.
Requeue was the natural way to do this based on the API's available
at the time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-24 23:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-11 20:53 [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock() Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 1:12 ` David Miller
2008-08-12 5:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 5:40 ` David Miller
2008-08-12 7:00 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 8:15 ` David Miller
2008-08-12 10:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 4:30 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 5:11 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 5:31 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 9:30 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 6:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 6:16 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 6:53 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 7:31 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 9:25 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 9:58 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 10:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 10:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 10:42 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 10:50 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 22:19 ` David Miller
2008-08-14 7:59 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 8:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-14 8:31 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 8:33 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-14 8:44 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 8:52 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 22:57 ` David Miller
2008-08-17 23:03 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 1:25 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 1:35 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 1:36 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 1:49 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 4:27 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 4:31 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 4:36 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 5:13 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 6:08 ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-18 6:13 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 6:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-18 6:38 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 21:29 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-18 23:47 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 10:31 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 10:51 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 10:54 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 10:55 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 10:58 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 11:02 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 11:11 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 16:48 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 22:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-20 11:56 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Fix qdisc_watchdog() vs. dev_deactivate() race Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-20 12:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 5:17 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 5:49 ` [PATCH take 2] " Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 6:10 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 6:49 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 7:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 7:52 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 8:00 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 8:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 8:35 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 8:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-11 10:39 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 10:45 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 10:49 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 11:00 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 11:42 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 11:45 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 11:47 ` David Miller
2008-09-12 4:49 ` David Miller
2008-09-12 8:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-12 23:10 ` David Miller
2008-09-13 1:10 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-13 1:22 ` David Miller
2008-09-13 1:27 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-13 1:40 ` David Miller
2008-09-13 1:48 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-13 20:54 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-14 6:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-14 10:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2008-09-14 21:43 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-14 22:13 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-15 6:07 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-15 6:19 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-15 7:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-15 7:45 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-15 23:44 ` Duyck, Alexander H
2008-09-16 10:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-17 2:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2008-09-14 11:56 ` jamal
2008-09-14 20:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-20 7:21 ` David Miller
2008-09-20 7:25 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-20 7:28 ` David Miller
2008-09-20 23:48 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 5:35 ` David Miller
2008-09-21 5:50 ` David Miller
2008-09-21 6:38 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-21 7:03 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 6:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24 7:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-24 8:04 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24 8:28 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 15:25 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 9:57 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 10:18 ` David Miller
2008-09-21 11:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-23 5:16 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 8:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-23 8:06 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 11:51 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-11 11:54 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 12:10 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-11 12:34 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:11 ` David Miller
2008-08-14 8:17 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock() Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 11:24 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 13:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 21:34 ` David Miller
2008-08-17 22:22 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 22:32 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 20:12 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-18 23:54 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 0:05 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 0:11 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 4:07 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 5:27 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-08-19 5:30 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 6:46 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 7:03 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 7:23 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 7:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 7:35 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 7:46 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 7:56 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:05 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 8:17 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 8:32 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 8:41 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:48 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 8:50 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 8:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:55 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 9:16 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:01 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:05 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 10:11 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:18 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:21 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 10:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 10:33 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:51 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 11:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 11:26 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 11:55 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:01 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:19 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:22 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:27 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 12:35 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:48 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:55 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 13:12 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 18:58 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 21:14 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 22:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 8:49 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 8:55 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 10:07 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 10:27 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 11:02 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 11:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 11:42 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 12:09 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 12:11 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 12:18 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 12:45 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-24 23:26 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2008-08-24 23:49 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-25 0:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-26 7:35 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-26 7:47 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-26 12:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-26 12:41 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-26 12:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-26 12:56 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-27 12:17 ` Bastian Bloessl
2008-08-27 9:32 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 9:56 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 12:25 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-23 12:15 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 20:40 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 22:24 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 8:41 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Fix qdisc list locking Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 10:14 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 9:27 ` [PATCH take 2] " Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 10:15 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 10:28 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 10:23 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 12:49 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock() Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:51 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:06 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 10:18 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-12 22:02 ` [PATCH take 2] pkt_sched: Protect gen estimators under est_lock Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 22:20 ` David Miller
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