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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Johann Baudy <johaahn@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Packet mmap: TX RING and zero copy
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:31:12 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080905113112.GA29926@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7e0dd21a0809050217v33ecb8fvcadd5e65118d6afe@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Johann.

On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 11:17:07AM +0200, Johann Baudy (johaahn@gmail.com) wrote:
> > vmsplice() can be slow, try to inject header via usual send() call, or
> > better do not use it at all for testing.
> >
> vmsplice() is short in comparison to splice()  ~ 200us !
> This was just to show you that even this vmpslice duration of 80us
> that is needed for each packet is too long to send only 1 packet.
> I really need a mechanism that allow sending of ~ 40 packets of 7200K
> in one system call to keep some cpu ressources to do other things.
> (Not spending time in kernel layers :))

Hmmm... splice()/sendfile() shuold be able to send the whole file in
single syscall. This looks like a problem in the userspace.

> > kill_fasync() also took too much time (top CPU user
> > is at bottom I suppose?), do you use SIGIO? Also vma traveling and page
> > checking is not what will be done in network code and your project, so
> > it also adds an overhead.
> 
> Between kill_fasync() sys_gettimeofday() , I thought that we returned
> to user space.
> No SIGIO. But FYI, I use PREEMPT_RT patch.

Does it also push softirq processing into threads?

> >Please try without vmsplice() at all, usual
> > splice()/sendfile() _has_ to saturate the link, otherwise we have a
> > serious problem.
> 
> I've already tried sendfile only with standard TCP/UDP socket. I've
> not saturated the link.
> Around same bitrate.

This worries me a lot: sendfile should be a single syscall which very
optimally creates network packets getting into account MTU and hardware
capabilities. I do belive it is a problem with userspace code.

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-05 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-02 18:27 Packet mmap: TX RING and zero copy Johann Baudy
2008-09-02 19:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-03  7:56   ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-03 10:38     ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-03 11:06       ` David Miller
2008-09-03 13:05         ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-03 13:27           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-03 14:57             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-09-03 15:00             ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-03 15:13               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-03 15:58                 ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-03 16:43                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-03 20:30                     ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-03 22:03                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-04 14:44                         ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-05  7:17                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                             ` <7e0dd21a0809050216r65b8f08fm1ad0630790a13a54@mail.gmail.com>
2008-09-05  9:17                               ` Fwd: " Johann Baudy
2008-09-05 11:31                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2008-09-05 12:44                                   ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-05 13:16                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-05 13:29                                       ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-05 13:37                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-05 13:55                                           ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-05 14:19                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-05 14:45                                               ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-05 14:59                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-05 15:30                                                   ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-05 15:38                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-05 16:01                                                       ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-05 16:34                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-08 10:21                                                           ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-08 11:26                                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-08 13:01                                                               ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-08 15:28                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-08 15:38                                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-09 23:11                                                                     ` Johann Baudy
2008-09-10  6:09                                                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-05 10:28 ` Robert Iakobashvili
2008-09-05 13:06   ` Johann Baudy

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