From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: andi@firstfloor.org
Cc: csnook@redhat.com, rick.jones2@hp.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Nagle latency tuning
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:40:12 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080922.184012.212424947.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080923001409.GB25711@one.firstfloor.org>
From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:14:09 +0200
> Typical case: you got a large company network behind a NAT.
> First user has a very crappy wireless connection behind a slow
> intercontinental link talking to the outgoing NAT router. He connectes to
> your internet server first and the window, slow start etc. parameters
> for him are saved in the dst_entry.
>
> The next guy behind the same NAT is in the same building
> as the router who connects the company to the internet. He
> has a much faster line. He connects to the same server.
> They will share the same dst and inetpeer entries.
>
> The parameters saved earlier for the same IP are clearly invalid
> for the second case. The link characteristics are completely
> different.
Just as typical are setups where the NAT clients are 1 or 2
fast hops behind the firewall.
There are many cases where perfectly acceptible heuristics
don't perform optimally, this doesn't mean we disable them
by default.
> Also did you know there are there are whole countries behind
> NAT.
I am more than aware of this, however this doesn't mean it is
sane and this kind of setup makes many useful internet services
inaccessible.
> Ah I see there's a sysctl now to disable this. How about
> setting it by default?
It's for debugging.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-23 1:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-08 21:56 RFC: Nagle latency tuning Christopher Snook
2008-09-08 22:39 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-09 5:10 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 5:17 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 5:56 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 6:02 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 10:31 ` Mark Brown
2008-09-09 12:05 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 12:09 ` Mark Brown
2008-09-09 12:19 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 6:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-09 6:28 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 13:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-09 14:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 18:40 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 19:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 19:21 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-11 4:08 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 19:59 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 20:25 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 10:49 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 11:09 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 20:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 22:22 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 22:26 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 23:00 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 23:13 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 23:24 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 23:21 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 0:14 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23 0:33 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-23 2:12 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23 1:40 ` David Miller [this message]
2008-09-23 2:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23 2:28 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 2:41 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 22:47 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-22 22:57 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 16:33 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-09 16:54 ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-09 17:21 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-09 17:54 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-08 22:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 5:22 ` Chris Snook
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