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From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Martin Devera <devik@cdi.cz>
Subject: Re: Possible regression in HTB
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:55:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081008065551.GB4174@ff.dom.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48EBFF5E.1090902@trash.net>

On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:31:26AM +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
...
> I'm pretty sure that the differences are caused by HTB not being
> in control of the queue since the device is the real bottleneck
> in this configuration.

Yes, otherwise there would be no requeuing. And, btw. the golden rule
of scheduling/shaping is limiting below "hardware" limits.

> Its quite possible that there simply might
> a subtle timing change that causes feedback through HTBs borrowing
> and ceiling.

I'd add my previous suspicion there could be not enough enqeuing on
time for the fastest class (could be also very bursty), so other
classes can borrow more.

>
> So what would really be useful to understand this is to make HTB
> control the queue and see if it behaves as expected.
>

Right, trying with lower rates/ceils should explain this.

Jarek P.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-08  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-07  1:15 Possible regression in HTB Simon Horman
2008-10-07  4:51 ` Simon Horman
2008-10-07  7:44   ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-07 12:03     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-10-08  0:09     ` Simon Horman
2008-10-08  6:37       ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-08  7:22         ` Simon Horman
2008-10-08  7:53           ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-07 12:20   ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-07 12:48     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-10-07 22:00       ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-08  0:21         ` Simon Horman
2008-10-08  0:31           ` Patrick McHardy
2008-10-08  0:40             ` Patrick McHardy
2008-10-08  7:34               ` Martin Devera
2008-10-08  8:53                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-08 10:47                   ` Martin Devera
2008-10-08 12:04                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-09  1:09                     ` Simon Horman
2008-10-09  6:22                       ` Martin Devera
2008-10-09  9:56                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-09 10:14                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-09 10:52                           ` Martin Devera
2008-10-09 11:04                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-09 11:11                         ` Simon Horman
2008-10-09 11:22                           ` Martin Devera
2008-10-08  6:55             ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2008-10-08  7:06               ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-10-08  7:46                 ` [PATCH] " Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-08 18:36                   ` David Miller
2008-10-08  7:22               ` Simon Horman
2008-10-08  8:03                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-09  0:54                   ` Simon Horman
2008-10-09  6:21                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-09  6:53                       ` Martin Devera
2008-10-09 11:18                       ` Simon Horman
2008-10-09 11:58                         ` Patrick McHardy
2008-10-09 12:36                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-10  6:59         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-10  8:57           ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-10 12:12             ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-10-08  0:10     ` Simon Horman

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