From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <rdenis@simphalempin.com>
To: "ext Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add a sysctl to disable TCP simultaneous connection opening
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:44:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810101144.06869.rdenis@simphalempin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081010081022.GA27187@1wt.eu>
On Friday 10 October 2008 11:10:22 ext Willy Tarreau, you wrote:
> > Duh? If you require a SYN from the outside to the server, before you
> > allow the server to send either SYN or SYN/ACK, I fail to see the
> > problem.
>
> Requiring the firewall to expect a first SYN to come from the internet is
> like doing no check at all.
On ports which are open to the outside you MUST allow inbound SYNs anyway.
From a security perspective, it does not matter whether the server answers
with a SYN/ACK as normally or with a SYN-not-ACK as in "simultaneous open".
On ports which the server is using outbound only (if any), you can expect the
server to send a SYN out first. It again does not matter whether the other
end answers with a SYN/ACK or a SYN-not-ACK.
On other ports, a plain dumb stateless blackhole will do.
> When your server has been rooted, you can
> pretty much expect that your guest has no problem sending you a SYN.
And why would (s)he have problem sending a SYN/ACK? It makes no difference.
--
Rémi Denis-Courmont
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-10 8:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-08 8:11 [PATCH] add a sysctl to disable TCP simultaneous connection opening Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <20081008081109.GA25342-K+wRfnb2/UA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-08 9:19 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-08 11:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-08 12:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-09 16:21 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-10-09 21:42 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-10 7:59 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-10-10 8:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-10 8:44 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2008-10-10 8:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-08 12:16 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-10-08 12:26 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-08 12:32 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-10-08 12:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-08 15:50 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-10-08 16:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-08 16:42 ` David Miller
2008-10-08 17:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-08 18:21 ` David Miller
2008-10-08 18:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-09 3:49 ` Andi Kleen
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