From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: dada1@cosmosbay.com
Cc: zbr@ioremap.net, shemminger@vyatta.com,
ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi, rjw@sisk.pl, mingo@elte.hu,
s0mbre@tservice.net.ru, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
efault@gmx.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen.
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:51:44 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081031.165144.86556444.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <490B7284.2010003@cosmosbay.com>
From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:03:00 +0100
> Evgeniy Polyakov a écrit :
> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:57:13PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger (shemminger@vyatta.com) wrote:
> >> Why bother with last_rx at all on loopback. I have been thinking
> >> we should figure out a way to get rid of last_rx all together. It only
> >> seems to be used by bonding, and the bonding driver could do the calculation
> >> in its receive handling.
> > Not related to the regression: bug will be just papered out by this
> > changes. Having bonding on loopback is somewhat strange idea, but still
> > this kind of changes is an attempt to make a good play in the bad game:
> > this loopback-only optimization does not fix the problem.
>
> Just to be clear, this change was not meant to be committed.
> It already was rejected by David some years ago (2005, and 2006)
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/netdev@vger.kernel.org/msg07382.html
However, I do like Stephen's suggestion that maybe we can get rid of
this ->last_rx thing by encapsulating the logic completely in the
bonding driver.
> If you read my mail, I was *only* saying that tbench results can be sensible to
> cache line ping pongs. tbench is a crazy benchmark, and only is a crazy benchmark.
>
> Optimizing linux for tbench sake would be .... crazy ?
Unlike dbench I think tbench is worth cranking up as much as possible.
It doesn't have a huge memory working set, it just writes mostly small
messages over a TCP socket back and forth, and does a lot of blocking
And I think we'd like all of those operating to run as fast as possible.
When Tridge first wrote tbench I would see the expected things at the
top of the profiles. Things like tcp_ack(), copy to/from user, and
perhaps SLAB.
Things have changed considerably.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-31 23:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-09 23:17 [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 5:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-10 8:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 11:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 13:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 11:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 22:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-24 23:31 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 4:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 5:15 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 5:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 11:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-26 3:55 ` David Miller
2008-10-26 11:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-25 3:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 5:16 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 5:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 6:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 7:24 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 7:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 23:10 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-26 8:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-26 9:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-26 9:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-26 9:34 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-26 10:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 2:34 ` David Miller
2008-10-27 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 9:57 ` David Miller
2008-10-26 10:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 19:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 9:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 10:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 11:33 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-27 12:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 13:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 14:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 19:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 19:48 ` David Miller
2008-10-28 10:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 10:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-28 10:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 11:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-28 14:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 15:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-29 9:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-29 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-01 12:51 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2008-10-29 9:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-26 9:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 7:19 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 7:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 17:26 ` Rick Jones
2008-10-27 19:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 19:18 ` Rick Jones
2008-10-27 19:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 11:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-26 12:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-30 18:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-30 18:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-30 18:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 18:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 19:01 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 7:52 ` David Miller
2008-10-31 9:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 9:51 ` David Miller
2008-10-31 10:42 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 10:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 11:01 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 11:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 11:15 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 19:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-31 20:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-31 21:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 21:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-31 23:51 ` David Miller [this message]
2008-10-31 23:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-11-01 0:16 ` Jay Vosburgh
2008-11-02 4:40 ` David Miller
2008-11-04 2:13 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] bonding, net: Move last_rx update into bonding recv logic Jay Vosburgh
2008-11-04 2:17 ` David Miller
2008-10-10 10:13 ` [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen Mike Galbraith
2008-10-11 13:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-11 14:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-11 18:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-12 6:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-12 6:33 ` Mike Galbraith
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