From: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi, rjw@sisk.pl, mingo@elte.hu,
s0mbre@tservice.net.ru, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
efault@gmx.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen.
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:18:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081031211858.GA11137@ioremap.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <490B7284.2010003@cosmosbay.com>
Hi Eric.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:03:00PM +0100, Eric Dumazet (dada1@cosmosbay.com) wrote:
> Just to be clear, this change was not meant to be committed.
> It already was rejected by David some years ago (2005, and 2006)
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/netdev@vger.kernel.org/msg07382.html
>
> If you read my mail, I was *only* saying that tbench results can be
> sensible to
> cache line ping pongs. tbench is a crazy benchmark, and only is a crazy
> benchmark.
No problem Eric, I just pointed that this particular case is rather
fluffy, which really does not fix anything. It improves the case, but
the way it does it, is not the right one imho.
We would definitely want to eliminate assignment of global constantly
updated variables in the pathes where it is not required, but in a
way which does improve the design and implementation, but not to
hide some other problem.
Tbench is, well, as is it is quite usual network server :)
Dbench side is rather non-optimized, but still it is quite common
pattern of small-sized IO. Anyway, optimizing for some kind of the
workload tends to force other side to become slower, so I agree of
course that any narrow-viewed optimizations are bad, and instead we
should focus on searching error patter more widerspread.
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-31 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-09 23:17 [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 5:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-10 8:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 11:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 13:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 11:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 22:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-24 23:31 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 4:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 5:15 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 5:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 11:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-26 3:55 ` David Miller
2008-10-26 11:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-25 3:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 5:16 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 5:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 6:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 7:24 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 7:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 23:10 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-26 8:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-26 9:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-26 9:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-26 9:34 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-26 10:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 2:34 ` David Miller
2008-10-27 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 9:57 ` David Miller
2008-10-26 10:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 19:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 9:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 10:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 11:33 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-27 12:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 13:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 14:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 19:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 19:48 ` David Miller
2008-10-28 10:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 10:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-28 10:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 11:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-28 14:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 15:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-29 9:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-29 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-01 12:51 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2008-10-29 9:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-26 9:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 7:19 ` David Miller
2008-10-25 7:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 17:26 ` Rick Jones
2008-10-27 19:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 19:18 ` Rick Jones
2008-10-27 19:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 11:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-26 12:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-30 18:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-30 18:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-30 18:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 18:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 19:01 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 7:52 ` David Miller
2008-10-31 9:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 9:51 ` David Miller
2008-10-31 10:42 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 10:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 11:01 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 11:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 11:15 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 19:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-31 20:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-31 21:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 21:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2008-10-31 23:51 ` David Miller
2008-10-31 23:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-11-01 0:16 ` Jay Vosburgh
2008-11-02 4:40 ` David Miller
2008-11-04 2:13 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] bonding, net: Move last_rx update into bonding recv logic Jay Vosburgh
2008-11-04 2:17 ` David Miller
2008-10-10 10:13 ` [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen Mike Galbraith
2008-10-11 13:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-11 14:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-11 18:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-12 6:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-12 6:33 ` Mike Galbraith
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