From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Miller Subject: Re: time for TCP ECN defaulting to on? Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:49:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20081106.204929.161401868.davem@davemloft.net> References: <20081105.151015.206163697.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: daniel.blueman@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org To: swmike@swm.pp.se Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-net-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org From: Mikael Abrahamsson Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:46:28 +0100 (CET) > I see that in > > there is a recommendation to not use ECN on retransmits, is there > code right now (or planned) to do some kind of "ECN blackhole > detection", ie if no response is received to SYN with ECN set, > continue by sending the second SYN without ECN and keep this > information for the duration of the TCP session? No, we are firmly against any form of ECN blackhole detection. Alexey Kuznetsov and Sally Floyd argued this out exhaustively several years ago.