From: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
To: "Lovich, Vitali" <vlovich@qualcomm.com>
Cc: Johann Baudy <johaahn@gmail.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Packet socket: mmapped IO: PACKET_TX_RING
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:11:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081112181134.GA5396@ioremap.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FCC0EC655BD1AE408C047268D1F5DF4C3BA61260@NASANEXMB10.na.qualcomm.com>
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 09:59:20AM -0800, Lovich, Vitali (vlovich@qualcomm.com) wrote:
> They aren't racy - not in the sense that your suggestion would make it. With current splice & sendfile, when it returns from the syscall, the user knows that it has been transmitted and thus can continue using the file descriptors & memory (in the case of vmsplice). However, with your suggestion, the user could actually never know when it's safe to write into memory (even in a single-threaded situation). Thus it is racy in a single-threaded situation (even on a UP it's potentially racy) which is a pretty amazing feat. Consider:
Problem is, that when sendfile() returns nothing has been transferred.
And in some NICs it will take a while to actually make a transfer.
And what you wrote below is exactly the same problem as exists with
splice/sendfile in particular and ->sendpage() in general.
Please also update your mailer to wrap strings into 80-or-so lines, it
is hard to answer into the middle of the paragraph.
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-12 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-31 10:58 [PATCH] Packet socket: mmapped IO: PACKET_TX_RING Johann Baudy
2008-10-31 17:07 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-10-31 18:24 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-04 22:45 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-06 0:47 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-06 8:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-06 18:49 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-06 19:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-06 19:53 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-07 16:36 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-07 17:19 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-10 20:29 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-11 0:29 ` Lovich, Vitali
[not found] ` <7e0dd21a0811110656yff651afp8ff0f9928b79f545@mail.gmail.com>
2008-11-11 14:59 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-11 19:05 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-11 12:10 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-11 17:44 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-11 18:08 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-11 18:19 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-11 18:59 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-11 19:10 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-12 12:09 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-12 17:12 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-11 11:43 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-11 17:38 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-11 17:50 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-11 18:14 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-11 18:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-11 19:19 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-11 19:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-12 13:43 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-12 13:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-12 17:07 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-12 17:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-12 17:59 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-12 18:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2008-11-12 19:05 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-12 19:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-12 21:23 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-12 21:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-12 22:33 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-18 18:49 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-18 19:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-18 19:46 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-07 17:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-07 20:22 ` David Miller
2008-10-31 20:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-04 22:33 ` Johann Baudy
2008-11-05 1:50 ` Lovich, Vitali
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-11-12 13:19 Johann Baudy
2008-11-05 15:16 Johann Baudy
2008-11-05 17:49 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-11-05 10:55 Johann Baudy
2008-11-05 11:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-11-05 17:32 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-10-30 13:00 Johann Baudy
2008-10-30 18:21 ` Lovich, Vitali
2008-10-27 9:33 Johann Baudy
2008-10-28 22:44 ` David Miller
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