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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: mbrown@fensystems.co.uk
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Realtek 8169 problems with net booting
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:15:03 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081204.101503.154423248.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812041722.26935.mbrown@fensystems.co.uk>

From: Michael Brown <mbrown@fensystems.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:22:26 +0000

> On Monday 24 November 2008 21:57:10 David Miller wrote:
> > Yes, a lot of drivers will enable bus mastering before resetting
> > the chip.
> >
> > The basic assumption is that the chip is quiescent at driver load
> > time.
> >
> > Since switching around this order across the board is too
> > gigantic a project, I would suggest just handling things on
> > a case-by-case basis where we know the BIOS or firmware leave
> > the chip in a crud state like this.
> 
> The assumption that the chip is quiescent is invalid in the case of any kind 
> of boot from SAN (e.g. iSCSI, AoE) via the net device.  The INT13-based 
> bootloader has no way to signal to the boot firmware that it is finished 
> using the INT13 interface, so the card will always be left in an active 
> state.

So there is no "close" method for the boot loader to call?
Who designs this crud? :-(

> In gPXE, we do what we can to ensure that the card is safe to use when the OS 
> loads; we edit the RX buffers, ISR, etc. out of the system memory map prior 
> to starting an iSCSI boot.  We don't, however, get a chance to actually 
> quiesce the chip before the OS driver loads up, so the OS driver must be 
> prepared to discover the chip in an active state.

It's really unfortunate that things have been setup so poorly.

So OK, we have to handle this.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-04 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-24 18:14 Realtek 8169 problems with net booting Alan Cox
2008-11-24 21:57 ` David Miller
2008-12-04 17:22   ` Michael Brown
2008-12-04 18:15     ` David Miller [this message]
2008-12-04 20:45       ` Michael Brown
2008-12-04 20:59         ` David Miller
2008-12-04 21:44           ` Alan Cox
2008-12-04 21:55             ` David Miller
2008-11-29 20:44 ` Francois Romieu
2008-11-29 21:06   ` Al Viro
2008-11-29 21:28     ` Francois Romieu
2008-11-29 22:47       ` Al Viro

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