From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: mbrown@fensystems.co.uk
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Realtek 8169 problems with net booting
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:15:03 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081204.101503.154423248.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812041722.26935.mbrown@fensystems.co.uk>
From: Michael Brown <mbrown@fensystems.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:22:26 +0000
> On Monday 24 November 2008 21:57:10 David Miller wrote:
> > Yes, a lot of drivers will enable bus mastering before resetting
> > the chip.
> >
> > The basic assumption is that the chip is quiescent at driver load
> > time.
> >
> > Since switching around this order across the board is too
> > gigantic a project, I would suggest just handling things on
> > a case-by-case basis where we know the BIOS or firmware leave
> > the chip in a crud state like this.
>
> The assumption that the chip is quiescent is invalid in the case of any kind
> of boot from SAN (e.g. iSCSI, AoE) via the net device. The INT13-based
> bootloader has no way to signal to the boot firmware that it is finished
> using the INT13 interface, so the card will always be left in an active
> state.
So there is no "close" method for the boot loader to call?
Who designs this crud? :-(
> In gPXE, we do what we can to ensure that the card is safe to use when the OS
> loads; we edit the RX buffers, ISR, etc. out of the system memory map prior
> to starting an iSCSI boot. We don't, however, get a chance to actually
> quiesce the chip before the OS driver loads up, so the OS driver must be
> prepared to discover the chip in an active state.
It's really unfortunate that things have been setup so poorly.
So OK, we have to handle this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-04 18:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-24 18:14 Realtek 8169 problems with net booting Alan Cox
2008-11-24 21:57 ` David Miller
2008-12-04 17:22 ` Michael Brown
2008-12-04 18:15 ` David Miller [this message]
2008-12-04 20:45 ` Michael Brown
2008-12-04 20:59 ` David Miller
2008-12-04 21:44 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-04 21:55 ` David Miller
2008-11-29 20:44 ` Francois Romieu
2008-11-29 21:06 ` Al Viro
2008-11-29 21:28 ` Francois Romieu
2008-11-29 22:47 ` Al Viro
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