From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
Cc: "David M. Lloyd" <dmlloyd@flurg.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC]: Support for zero-copy TCP transmit of user space data
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:07:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081219190701.GP32491@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <494BDBC5.7050701@vlnb.net>
On Fri, Dec 19 2008, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> David M. Lloyd, on 12/18/2008 09:43 PM wrote:
> >On 12/18/2008 12:35 PM, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> >>An iSCSI target driver iSCSI-SCST was a part of the patchset
> >>(http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/12/10/293). For it a nice optimization to
> >>have TCP zero-copy transmit of user space data was implemented. Patch,
> >>implementing this optimization was also sent in the patchset, see
> >>http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/12/10/296.
> >
> >I'm probably ignorant of about 90% of the context here, but isn't this the
> >sort of problem that was supposed to have been solved by vmsplice(2)?
>
> No, vmsplice can't help here. ISCSI-SCST is a kernel space driver. But,
> even if it was a user space driver, vmsplice wouldn't change anything
> much. It doesn't have a possibility for a user to know, when
> transmission of the data finished. So, it is intended to be used as:
> vmsplice() buffer -> munmap() the buffer -> mmap() new buffer ->
> vmsplice() it. But on the mmap() stage kernel has to zero all the newly
> mapped pages and zeroing memory isn't much faster, than copying it.
> Hence, there would be no considerable performance increase.
vmsplice() isn't the right choice, but splice() very well could be. You
could easily use splice internally as well. The vmsplice() part sort-of
applies in the sense that you want to fill pages into a pipe, which is
essentially what vmsplice() does. You'd need some helper to do that. And
the ack-on-xmit-done bits is something that splice-to-socket needs
anyway, so I think it'd be quite a suitable choice for this.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-19 19:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-10 18:26 [PATCH][RFC 0/23] New SCSI target framework (SCST) and 4 target drivers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:01 ` [PATCH][RFC 21/23]: iSCSI target driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 22:55 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-11 22:59 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-12 19:26 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:02 ` [PATCH][RFC 22/23]: Documentation for iSCSI-SCST Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:04 ` [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: Support for zero-copy TCP transmit of user space data Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 21:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-11 18:16 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 19:12 ` James Bottomley
2008-12-12 19:25 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-12 19:37 ` James Bottomley
2008-12-15 17:58 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-15 23:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-16 18:57 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-18 18:35 ` [RFC]: " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-18 18:43 ` David M. Lloyd
2008-12-19 17:37 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 19:07 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-12-19 19:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 19:27 ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-19 21:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-23 19:11 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 11:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-19 17:38 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 18:00 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-19 17:57 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-16 16:00 ` [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: " Bart Van Assche
2008-12-16 17:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-19 20:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-19 22:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-19 22:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-19 22:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-20 1:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20 2:02 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20 6:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20 6:51 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20 7:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20 8:10 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20 10:32 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-20 19:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-22 0:43 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-23 19:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-23 19:16 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-23 21:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-24 14:37 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-24 14:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-24 17:46 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-24 18:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-30 17:37 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-30 21:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-23 19:13 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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