From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com, brgerst@gmail.com,
cl@linux-foundation.org, travis@sgi.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, steiner@sgi.com, hugh@veritas.com,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu: add optimized generic percpu accessors
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:45:01 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090121234502.66acbcf9@s6510> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1fxjcucp8.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:21:23 -0800
ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote:
> Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> writes:
>
> > Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> The larger point still remains: the kernel dominantly uses static percpu
> >> variables by a margin of 10 to 1, so we cannot just brush away the static
> >> percpu variables and must concentrate on optimizing that side with
> >> priority. It's nice if the dynamic percpu-alloc side improves as well, of
> >> course.
> >
> > Well, the infrequent usage of dynamic percpu allocation is in some
> > part due to the poor implementation, so it's sort of chicken and egg
> > problem. I got into this percpu thing because I wanted a percpu
> > reference count which can be dynamically allocated and it sucked.
>
> Counters are our other special case, and counters are interesting
> because they are individually very small. I just looked and the vast
> majority of the alloc_percpu users are counters.
>
> I just did a rough count in include/linux/snmp.h and I came
> up with 171*2 counters. At 8 bytes per counter that is roughly
> 2.7K. Or about two thirds of a 4K page.
This is crap. only a small fraction of these SNMP counters are
close enough to the hot path to deserve per-cpu treatment.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-21 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <20090116001200.GA9137@gondor.apana.org.au>
[not found] ` <20090116001544.GA11073@elte.hu>
2009-01-16 0:18 ` [PATCH] percpu: add optimized generic percpu accessors Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <200901170827.33729.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-16 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <200901201328.24605.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-20 6:25 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-20 10:36 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <200901271213.18605.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-27 2:24 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-27 13:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 23:07 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-28 3:36 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-28 8:12 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-27 20:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-27 21:47 ` David Miller
2009-01-27 22:47 ` Rick Jones
2009-01-28 0:17 ` Luck, Tony
2009-01-28 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-28 17:15 ` Luck, Tony
2009-01-28 16:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-28 20:47 ` David Miller
2009-01-28 10:38 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 10:56 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-29 2:06 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-31 6:11 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-28 16:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-28 18:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-01-29 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-29 18:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-20 10:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 5:52 ` Tejun Heo
2009-01-21 10:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 11:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-21 12:45 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2009-01-21 14:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-21 20:34 ` David Miller
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