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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@hp.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, markmc@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] virtio_net: Add a MAC filter table
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:15:13 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901282115.14083.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1233027482.7148.42.camel@2710p.home>

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 14:08:02 Alex Williamson wrote:
> Hi Rusty,
> 
> On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 13:00 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > On Saturday 17 January 2009 07:43:34 Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > As with most real hardware, unicast addresses have priority in
> > 
> > > the filter table so we can avoid enabling full promiscuous
> > 
> > > until both unicast and multicast address overflow.
> > 
> > Why not pretend to have infinite, and have the host turn promisc on
> > when *it*
> > 
> > decides? Skip the alloc call, and just use a feature bit like
> > everything else?
> 
> I suppose it's just a matter of where do you want to add the smarts and
> the tune-ability.  Since we can't actually have an infinite table and an
> array implementation seems to make sense from an efficiency standpoint,
> it needs to be defined by someone to be a fixed size before we start
> using it.  I was hoping the guest driver might have a better idea how it
> plans to use the filter table and that there'd be some benefit to having
> that handshake happen between the driver and the backend.  The module
> parameter fell out of this and seems rather convenient.
> 
> I could pursue this is you like, but I'm not sure of the benefit,
> particularly if we want to give the user some control of the size of the
> actual table.  Thoughts?  Thanks for the comments,

I don't think the either-or case is real.  Say the user decides they want a table of 1000000 entries.  And the backend says "no way, I have a 16 array"?  Currently you get nothing.

I guess your qemu code does dynamic allocation.  But I'm sure you put a limit in there, right? :)

We don't want some complex negotiation, and I don't think the guest has any more clue than the host, nor can do much about it.

Cheers,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-28 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16 21:13 [PATCH 0/5] virtio_net: Add MAC and VLAN filtering Alex Williamson
2009-01-16 21:13 ` [PATCH 1/5] virtio_net: Allow setting the MAC address of the NIC Alex Williamson
2009-01-19  9:32   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-16 21:13 ` [PATCH 2/5] virtio_net: Add a virtqueue for outbound control commands Alex Williamson
2009-01-19  9:32   ` Mark McLoughlin
     [not found]   ` <200901271352.57887.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-27  4:00     ` Alex Williamson
2009-01-28 13:05       ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:02         ` Alex Williamson
2009-01-29  1:35           ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 21:13 ` [PATCH 3/5] virtio_net: Add a set_rx_mode interface Alex Williamson
2009-01-19  9:32   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-16 21:13 ` [PATCH 4/5] virtio_net: Add a MAC filter table Alex Williamson
2009-01-19  9:33   ` Mark McLoughlin
     [not found]   ` <200901271300.30330.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-27  3:38     ` Alex Williamson
2009-01-28 10:45       ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2009-01-28 17:48         ` Alex Williamson
2009-01-28 23:55           ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29  0:34             ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-29  6:17               ` David Stevens
2009-01-30  7:03                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 21:13 ` [PATCH 5/5] virtio_net: Add support for VLAN filtering in the hypervisor Alex Williamson
2009-01-19  9:32   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-20 16:36     ` Alex Williamson
2009-01-20 16:44       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-26  2:08         ` David Miller
2009-01-26 17:42           ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]       ` <200901271422.33369.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-27  4:19         ` Alex Williamson
2009-01-19  6:05 ` [PATCH 0/5] virtio_net: Add MAC and VLAN filtering David Miller
2009-01-19  8:30   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-20  1:10     ` David Miller

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