From: "Marian Ďurkovič" <md@bts.sk>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: johnwheffner@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP rx window autotuning harmful at LAN context
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:29:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090311082920.GA20543@bts.sk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090310.091816.178102814.davem@davemloft.net>
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 09:18:16AM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> There are both global system-wide and socket local limits to how much
> memory can be consumed by TCP receive data. If things get beyond the
> configured limits, we back off. You could modify those if you
> personally wish.
>
> It's really good that you brought up this issue.
>
> And it's really good that you've explained your own personal
> workaround for this issue.
Beg your pardon - "personal" ?! Is our university the only place where
people use Linux on workstations with 100 Mbps ethernet connection?
Isn't the stock kernel supposed to work decently for them - or should
they all become TCP experts and fiddle with various parameters in order
not to cause harm to other applications or the whole LAN just by starting
a single bulk transfer?
For the last time: setting TCP window to BDP is well-known and generally
accepted practice. Autotuning does NOT respect it, and for 100 Mpbs
connections at LAN context it might set the rx window somewhere between
100*BDP and 300*BDP. Since the BDP formula obviously applies also in
reverse direction, i.e.
delay=window/bandwith
setting insanely huge window results in insanely increased LAN latencies
(upto buffer limits). Is this really something noone cares about ?!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-11 8:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-09 11:25 TCP rx window autotuning harmful at LAN context Marian Ďurkovič
2009-03-09 18:01 ` John Heffner
2009-03-09 20:05 ` Marian Ďurkovič
2009-03-09 20:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-10 0:09 ` David Miller
2009-03-10 0:34 ` Rick Jones
2009-03-10 3:55 ` John Heffner
2009-03-10 17:20 ` Rick Jones
2009-03-11 10:03 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-11 11:03 ` Marian Ďurkovič
2009-03-11 13:30 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 15:01 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-11 14:56 ` Marian Ďurkovič
2009-03-11 15:34 ` John Heffner
[not found] ` <20090309195906.M50328@bts.sk>
2009-03-09 20:23 ` John Heffner
2009-03-09 20:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-09 23:52 ` David Miller
2009-03-10 0:09 ` John Heffner
2009-03-10 5:19 ` Eric Dumazet
[not found] ` <20090310104956.GA81181@bts.sk>
2009-03-10 11:30 ` David Miller
2009-03-10 11:46 ` Marian Ďurkovič
2009-03-10 15:23 ` John Heffner
2009-03-10 16:00 ` Marian Ďurkovič
2009-03-10 16:18 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 8:29 ` Marian Ďurkovič [this message]
2009-03-11 8:41 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 9:05 ` Marian Ďurkovič
2009-03-11 9:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-11 13:25 ` David Miller
2009-03-11 9:02 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
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