From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, agraf@suse.de,
pmullaney@novell.com, pmorreale@novell.com,
anthony@codemonkey.ws, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:23:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090401132340.GT11935@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D35825.3050001@novell.com>
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 08:03:49AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> writes:
> >
> > What might be useful is if you could expand a bit more on what the high level
> > use cases for this.
> >
> > Questions that come to mind and that would be good to answer:
> >
> > This seems to be aimed at having multiple VMs talk
> > to each other, but not talk to the rest of the world, correct?
> > Is that a common use case?
> >
>
> Actually we didn't design specifically for either type of environment.
But surely you must have some specific use case in mind? Something
that it does better than the various methods that are available
today. Or rather there must be some problem you're trying
to solve. I'm just not sure what that problem exactly is.
> What we *are* trying to address is making an easy way to declare virtual
> resources directly in the kernel so that they can be accessed more
> efficiently. Contrast that to the way its done today, where the models
> live in, say, qemu userspace.
>
> So instead of having
> guest->host->qemu::virtio-net->tap->[iptables|bridge], you simply have
> guest->host->[iptables|bridge]. How you make your private network (if
So is the goal more performance or simplicity or what?
> > What would be the use cases for non networking devices?
> >
> > How would the interfaces to the user look like?
> >
>
> I am not sure if you are asking about the guests perspective or the
> host-administators perspective.
I was wondering about the host-administrators perspective.
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-01 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-31 18:42 [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:42 ` [RFC PATCH 01/17] shm-signal: shared-memory signals Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:58 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 21:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-01 12:12 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 12:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-01 13:57 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:42 ` [RFC PATCH 02/17] vbus: add virtual-bus definitions Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 16:06 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-04-02 18:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 03/17] vbus: add connection-client helper infrastructure Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 04/17] vbus: add bus-registration notifiers Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 05/17] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 06/17] ioq: Add basic definitions for a shared-memory, lockless queue Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/17] ioq: add vbus helpers Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 08/17] venet: add the ABI definitions for an 802.x packet interface Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 09/17] net: Add vbus_enet driver Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-02 11:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 10/17] venet-tap: Adds a "venet" compatible "tap" device to VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 11/17] venet: add scatter-gather support Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 12/17] venettap: " Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 13/17] x86: allow the irq->vector translation to be determined outside of ioapic Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 19:16 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31 20:02 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 14/17] kvm: add a reset capability Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 19:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:02 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:37 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 15/17] kvm: add dynamic IRQ support Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 19:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 19:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 20:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 16/17] kvm: Add VBUS support to the host Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] kvm: Add guest-side support for VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-03-31 20:18 ` [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 12:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 13:23 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-04-01 14:19 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 14:42 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 17:01 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 18:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-01 20:40 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-01 21:11 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 21:28 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-01 22:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 6:00 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 3:11 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-01 21:09 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 0:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 3:11 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 6:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 8:52 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 9:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 9:16 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 9:29 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 9:33 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 9:41 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 9:44 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 11:06 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:30 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:13 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-02 12:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:52 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:05 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 14:50 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:40 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 15:57 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 16:09 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 16:54 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 17:06 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 17:17 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-03 4:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-02 10:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 10:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 11:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:12 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:48 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:54 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:55 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 12:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:05 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:18 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-03 11:34 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-03 11:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 11:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 10:46 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 11:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 12:54 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 13:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 13:45 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:24 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 16:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 18:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-03 1:11 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-20 18:02 ` Alex Williamson
2009-04-03 12:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 12:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 13:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 13:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 16:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-05 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 3:09 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 6:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 8:54 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 9:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 9:05 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-01 20:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 22:23 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 23:05 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 6:08 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-01 11:35 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 1:24 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-02 2:27 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-01 16:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-05 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-05 8:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-05 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-05 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-05 16:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 3:15 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] <49D469D2020000A100045FA1@lucius.provo.novell.com>
2009-04-02 14:14 ` Patrick Mullaney
2009-04-02 14:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 15:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-02 15:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 16:06 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 16:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 17:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 11:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 14:58 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-03 15:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 18:19 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-05 10:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 17:09 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-03 18:32 ` Gregory Haskins
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