From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, paulus@samba.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question about softirqs
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:12:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090512081237.GA16403@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A08C62F.1050105@nortel.com>
* Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com> wrote:
> This started out as a thread on the ppc list, but on the
> suggestion of DaveM and Paul Mackerras I'm expanding the receiver
> list a bit.
>
> Currently, if a softirq is raised in process context the
> TIF_RESCHED_PENDING flag gets set and on return to userspace we
> run the scheduler, expecting it to switch to ksoftirqd to handle
> the softirqd processing.
>
> I think I see a possible problem with this. Suppose I have a
> SCHED_FIFO task spinning on recvmsg() with MSG_DONTWAIT set. Under
> the scenario above, schedule() would re-run the spinning task
> rather than ksoftirqd, thus preventing any incoming packets from
> being sent up the stack until we get a real hardware
> interrupt--which could be a whole jiffy if interrupt mitigation is
> enabled in the net device.
TIF_RESCHED_PENDING will not be set if a SCHED_FIFO task wakes up a
SCHED_OTHER ksoftirqd task. But starvation of ksoftirqd processing
will occur.
> DaveM pointed out that if we're doing transmits we're likely to
> hit local_bh_enable(), which would process the softirq work.
> However, I think we may still have a problem in the above rx-only
> scenario--or is it too contrived to matter?
This could occur, and the problem is really that task priorities do
not extend across softirq work processing.
This could occur in ordinary SCHED_OTHER tasks as well, if the
softirq is bounced to ksoftirqd - which it only should be if there's
serious softirq overload - or, as you describe it above, if the
softirq is raised in process context:
if (!in_interrupt())
wakeup_softirqd();
that's not really clean. We look into eliminating process context
use of raise_softirq_irqsoff(). Such code sequence:
local_irq_save(flags);
...
raise_softirq_irqsoff(nr);
...
local_irq_restore(flags);
should be converted to something like:
local_irq_save(flags);
...
raise_softirq_irqsoff(nr);
...
local_irq_restore(flags);
recheck_softirqs();
If someone does not do proper local_bh_disable()/enable() sequences
for micro-optimization reasons, then push the check to after the
critcal section - and dont cause extra reschedules by waking up
ksoftirqd. raise_softirq_irqsoff() will also be faster.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-12 8:13 UTC|newest]
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2009-05-12 0:43 ` question about softirqs Chris Friesen
2009-05-12 8:12 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-05-12 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-12 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-12 9:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-12 12:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-13 4:45 ` David Miller
2009-05-13 4:44 ` David Miller
2009-05-13 5:15 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-05-13 5:28 ` David Miller
2009-05-13 5:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-05-12 15:18 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 8:34 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 13:23 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 14:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 14:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-13 14:24 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 14:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-13 15:02 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 15:05 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 15:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-13 16:10 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 17:01 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 19:04 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 19:13 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 19:44 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 19:53 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 20:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
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