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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	fbl@redhat.com, nhorman@redhat.com, davem@redhat.com,
	htejun@gmail.com, jarkao2@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	davidel@xmailserver.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	Paul McKenney <Paul.McKenney@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 2/2] memory barrier: adding smp_mb__after_lock
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:04:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090703140401.GA10256@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090703090606.GA3902@elte.hu>

* Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> 
> * Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/spinlock.h
> > @@ -302,4 +302,7 @@ static inline void __raw_write_unlock(raw_rwlock_t *rw)
> >  #define _raw_read_relax(lock)	cpu_relax()
> >  #define _raw_write_relax(lock)	cpu_relax()
> >  
> > +/* The {read|write|spin}_lock() on x86 are full memory barriers. */
> > +#define smp_mb__after_lock() do { } while (0)
> 

Hm. Looking at http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/6/23/192, a very basic question
comes to my mind :

Why don't we create a read_lock without acquire semantic instead (e.g.
read_lock_nomb(), or something with a better name like __read_lock()) ?
On architectures where memory barriers are needed to provide the acquire
semantic, it would be faster to do :

__read_lock();
smp_mb();

than :

read_lock(); <- e.g. lwsync + isync or something like that
smp_mb(); <- full sync.

Second point : __add_wait_queue/waitqueue_active/wake_up_interruptible
would probably benefit from adding comments about their combined use
with other checks and how nice memory barriers are.

Mathieu


> Two small stylistic comments, please make this an inline function:
> 
> static inline void smp_mb__after_lock(void) { }
> #define smp_mb__after_lock
> 
> (untested)
> 
> > +/* The lock does not imply full memory barrier. */
> > +#ifndef smp_mb__after_lock
> > +#define smp_mb__after_lock() smp_mb()
> > +#endif
> 
> ditto.
> 
> 	Ingo

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-03 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-03  8:12 [PATCHv5 0/2] net: fix race in the receive/select Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03  8:13 ` [PATCHv5 1/2] net: adding memory barrier to the poll and receive callbacks Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 15:56   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-03  8:14 ` [PATCHv5 2/2] memory barrier: adding smp_mb__after_lock Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03  9:06   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03  9:20     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-03  9:24       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03  9:56         ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 10:25           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03 11:18             ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 11:30               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-07-03 11:43                 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 10:18               ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 13:46                 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 14:01                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 14:34                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 15:04                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 15:44                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 15:50                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-07 19:45                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 22:44                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-07 23:28                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 23:51                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-08  4:34                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-08  7:18                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-07-07 14:34                     ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 14:42                     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-07 14:57                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 15:23                         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-08 17:47                           ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-08 18:07                             ` David Miller
2009-07-08 18:16                               ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 14:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-07-03 15:29       ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-03 15:37         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-03 15:47           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-03 17:06             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-03 17:31               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-03 15:40         ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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