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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	andi@firstfloor.org, arjan@infradead.org, matthew@wil.cx,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	douglas.w.styner@intel.com, chinang.ma@intel.com,
	terry.o.prickett@intel.com, matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com,
	Eric.Moore@lsi.com, DL-MPTFusionLinux@lsi.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: >10% performance degradation since 2.6.18
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:45:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090706084537.GB28145@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A5110B9.4030904@garzik.org>

> That seems to presume it is impossible to reprogram the NIC RX queue 
> selection rules?
> 
> If you can add a new 'flow' to a NIC hardware RX queue, surely you can 
> imagine a remove + add operation for a migrated 'flow'...  and thus, at 
> least on the NIC hardware level, flows can follow processes.

The standard on modern NIC hardware is stateless hashing: as in you
don't program in flows, but the hardware just uses a fixed hash
to map the header to a rx queue. You can't really significantly influence
the hash on a per flow basis there (in theory you could chose
specific local port numbers, but you can't do that for the remote
ports or for well known sockets)

There are a few highend NICs that optionally support arbitary flow matching,
but it typically only supports a very limited number of flows
(so you need some fallback anyways) and of course it would
be costly to reprogram the NIC on every socket state change.

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-06  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-07-04  9:19                     ` >10% performance degradation since 2.6.18 Jeff Garzik
2009-07-05  4:01                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-05 13:09                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-07-05 16:11                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-06  8:38                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-05 20:44                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-07-06  1:19                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-06  8:45                           ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-07-06 17:00                         ` Rick Jones
2009-07-06 17:36                           ` Ma, Chinang
2009-07-06 17:42                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-07-06 17:57                               ` Ma, Chinang
2009-07-06 18:05                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-07-06 18:48                                   ` Ma, Chinang
2009-07-06 18:53                                     ` Matthew Wilcox

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