From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
fbl@redhat.com, nhorman@redhat.com, davem@redhat.com,
htejun@gmail.com, jarkao2@gmail.com, davidel@xmailserver.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 2/2] memory barrier: adding smp_mb__after_lock
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:34:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090707143416.GB11704@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090707140135.GA5506@Krystal>
On 07/07, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> As with any optimization (and this is one that adds a semantic that will
> just grow the memory barrier/locking rule complexity), it should come
> with performance benchmarks showing real-life improvements.
Well, the same applies to smp_mb__xxx_atomic_yyy or smp_mb__before_clear_bit.
Imho the new helper is not worse, and it could be also used by
try_to_wake_up(), __pollwake(), insert_work() at least.
> Otherwise I'd recommend sticking to smp_mb() if this execution path is
> not that critical, or to move to RCU if it's _that_ critical.
>
> A valid argument would be if the data structures protected are so
> complex that RCU is out of question but still the few cycles saved by
> removing a memory barrier are really significant.
Not sure I understand how RCU can help,
> And even then, the
> proper solution would be more something like a
> __read_lock()+smp_mb+smp_mb+__read_unlock(), so we get the performance
> improvements on architectures other than x86 as well.
Hmm. could you explain what you mean?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-07 14:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-03 8:12 [PATCHv5 0/2] net: fix race in the receive/select Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 8:13 ` [PATCHv5 1/2] net: adding memory barrier to the poll and receive callbacks Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 15:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-03 8:14 ` [PATCHv5 2/2] memory barrier: adding smp_mb__after_lock Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 9:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03 9:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-03 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03 9:56 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03 11:18 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 11:30 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-07-03 11:43 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 10:18 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 13:46 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 14:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 14:34 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-07-07 15:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 15:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 15:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-07 19:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 22:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-07 23:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 23:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-08 4:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-08 7:18 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-07-07 14:34 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-07 14:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-07 14:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-07 15:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-08 17:47 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-08 18:07 ` David Miller
2009-07-08 18:16 ` Jiri Olsa
2009-07-03 14:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-03 15:29 ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-03 15:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-07-03 15:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-03 17:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-07-03 17:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-07-03 15:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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