From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: avorontsov@ru.mvista.com
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
oleg@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] sched: Remove SYSTEM_RUNNING checks from cond_resched*()
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:47:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090708144744.5555b88d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090708213331.GA9346@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru>
(belatedly cc'ing netdev)
Original diagnosis:
: Using early netconsole and gianfar driver this error pops up:
:
: netconsole: timeout waiting for carrier
:
: It appears that net/core/netpoll.c:netpoll_setup() is using
: cond_resched() in a loop waiting for a carrier.
:
: The thing is that cond_resched() is a no-op when system_state !=
: SYSTEM_RUNNING, and so drivers/net/phy/phy.c's state_queue is never
: scheduled, therefore link detection doesn't work
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 01:33:31 +0400 Anton Vorontsov <avorontsov@ru.mvista.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 02:10:24PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > That said, I do agree that maybe SYSTEM_RUNNING isn't the right check.
> > > Testing that the scheduler is initialized may be the more correct one. I
> > > think the SYSTEM_RUNNING one just comes from that being used for other
> > > debug issues.
> >
> > Agreed. system_state is too general.
> >
> > If we specifically want to know whether it is safe to call schedule() then
> > let's create a global boolean it_is_safe_to_call_schedule and test that,
> > rather than testing something which indirectly and unreliably implies "it
> > is safe to call schedule". If that boolean already exists then no-brainer.
> >
> > All that being said, I wonder if the netconsole code should be using
> > msleep(1) instead. Spinning on cond_resched() is a bit rude. But one
> > would have to verify that it is safe to call schedule() at this time, and
> > for the netconsole caller, this is dubious.
>
> What do you mean by "verify that it is safe"? If it works,
> can I assume that it's safe? ;-) It works, fwiw.
>
netconsole is supposed to be available as early as possible in boot for
obvious reasons. I'd say there's a decent risk now and in the future that
netconsole will be initialised prior to the scheduler being available.
In fact, if "netconsole: timeout waiting for carrier" newly added to
netpoll_setup() a depedency on the scheduler being available then perhaps
that was an incorrect change.
next parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-08 21:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20090707235812.GA12824@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru>
[not found] ` <20090708005000.GA12380@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <1247034263.9777.24.camel@twins>
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0907080907210.3210@localhost.localdomain>
[not found] ` <20090708141024.f8b581c5.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
[not found] ` <20090708213331.GA9346@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru>
2009-07-08 21:47 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-07-08 22:20 ` [PATCH] netpoll: Fix carrier detection for drivers that are using phylib Anton Vorontsov
2009-07-09 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-09 3:08 ` David Miller
2009-07-09 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-09 12:56 ` Matt Mackall
2009-07-09 13:26 ` Matt Mackall
2009-07-09 13:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-09 14:18 ` Matt Mackall
2009-07-09 14:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-09 14:43 ` Matt Mackall
2009-07-09 14:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-09 15:06 ` Matt Mackall
2009-07-09 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-09 12:52 ` Matt Mackall
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