From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Narendra_K@Dell.com
Cc: dannf@hp.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org, Matt_Domsch@Dell.com,
Jordan_Hargrave@Dell.com, Charles_Rose@Dell.com
Subject: Re: PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:51:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091013195117.GA3778@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE58954D@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:43:49PM +0530, Narendra_K@Dell.com wrote:
>
> >> These device nodes are not functional at the moment - open() returns
> >> -ENOSYS. Their only purpose is to provide userspace with a kernel
> >> name to ifindex mapping, in a form that udev can easily manage.
> >
> >If the idea is just to provide a userspace-visible mapping
> >(and presumably take advantage of udev's infrastructure for
> >naming) does this need kernel changes? Could this be a
> >hierarchy under e.g. /etc/udev instead, using plain text
> >files? It still means we need something like libnetdevname for
> >apps to do the translation, but I'm not seeing why it matters
> >how this map is stored. Is there some special property of the
> >character devices (e.g. uevents) that we're not already
> >getting with the existing interfaces?
>
> Yes. The char device by itself doesn't help in any way. But it provides
> a flexible mechanism to provide multiple names for the same device, just
> the way it is for disks.
No, it's quite different than disks in that the symlinks, _and_ the
device nodes do absolutly nothing. And any reference to a name that is
a symlink will not work with any existing network tool, you will have to
do some kind of lookup to determine which network device you really were
referring to.
These links end up being useless, and confusing, I still don't see how
you can use them for anything.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-13 19:51 UTC|newest]
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2009-10-09 14:00 ` PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy Narendra K
2009-10-09 14:51 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-09 16:23 ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-09 16:56 ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-12 10:41 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-10-12 11:31 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-12 17:37 ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-13 18:06 ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:53 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-13 19:53 ` John W. Linville
2009-10-09 16:36 ` Greg KH
2009-10-09 17:17 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-09 17:22 ` Greg KH
2009-10-09 21:09 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10 2:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-10 4:40 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10 5:23 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 8:17 ` Sujit K M
2009-10-10 16:27 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 19:00 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-10 21:10 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 12:47 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10 16:25 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 17:34 ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-10 21:13 ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 6:21 ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-12 16:19 ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-11 16:40 ` David Zeuthen
2009-10-11 18:47 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 18:11 ` Bill Fink
2009-10-10 18:35 ` Kay Sievers
2009-10-11 21:10 ` Rob Townley
2009-10-11 23:04 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-12 3:00 ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 18:35 ` Rob Townley
2009-10-12 18:44 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-12 17:45 ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-12 17:55 ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 18:07 ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-12 18:15 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 18:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-10 21:06 ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 18:02 ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:53 ` Narendra_K
2009-10-12 7:30 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2009-10-11 0:37 ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-13 15:08 ` dann frazier
2009-10-13 17:13 ` Narendra_K
2009-10-13 17:36 ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 0:32 ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 14:02 ` Narendra_K
2009-10-16 15:20 ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 15:33 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-16 15:41 ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 21:40 ` dann frazier
2009-10-19 11:30 ` Narendra_K
2009-10-19 16:14 ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-11-04 14:23 ` Narendra_K
2009-11-06 8:49 ` Marco d'Itri
2009-11-06 22:06 ` Matt Domsch
2009-11-06 22:35 ` Marco d'Itri
2009-11-06 23:17 ` dann frazier
2009-11-09 14:41 ` Narendra_K
2009-11-10 17:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-11-11 6:31 ` Narendra_K
2009-11-06 22:05 ` Domsch, Matt
2009-10-22 6:36 ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent net interfaces dann frazier
2009-10-27 20:55 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-28 8:23 ` Kay Sievers
2009-10-28 13:03 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-28 15:09 ` dann frazier
2009-10-28 16:09 ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-10-28 16:09 ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-10-28 16:11 ` Greg KH
2009-10-28 13:06 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-28 19:15 ` Narendra_K
2009-10-29 13:11 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-29 14:25 ` Greg KH
2009-10-29 16:44 ` Narendra_K
2009-10-29 16:52 ` Greg KH
2009-10-29 17:22 ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent netinterfaces Narendra_K
2009-10-29 17:50 ` dann frazier
2009-10-29 16:49 ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent net interfaces Ben Hutchings
2009-10-29 16:55 ` Greg KH
2009-10-29 17:12 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-29 17:20 ` Greg KH
2009-10-29 17:46 ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 3:30 ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-30 5:38 ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 6:22 ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-30 15:00 ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 15:13 ` Narendra_K
2009-10-30 16:08 ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent netinterfaces Narendra_K
2009-10-30 17:05 ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 17:10 ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent net interfaces Matt Domsch
2009-10-30 17:13 ` Greg KH
2009-10-30 7:45 ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-10-30 16:22 ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-30 16:34 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-13 19:51 ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-10-13 20:00 ` PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy Jordan_Hargrave
2009-10-13 20:19 ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 22:05 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-13 22:08 ` dann frazier
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2009-10-28 13:06 ` Narendra K
[not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE589541@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-12 18:47 ` Narendra K
2009-10-12 19:09 ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 19:41 ` Karl O. Pinc
2009-10-13 18:17 ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:56 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-12 19:48 ` Matt Domsch
[not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE58953F@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-12 18:07 ` Narendra K
[not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE5894F6@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-09 16:04 ` Narendra K
2009-10-09 16:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-09 16:25 ` Matt Domsch
[not found] <5DDAB7BA7BDB58439DD0EED0B8E9A3AE011CD92D@ausx3mpc102.aus.amer.dell.com>
2009-08-19 18:56 ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-08-19 19:26 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-08-19 19:40 ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-08-20 4:41 ` Bryan Kadzban
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