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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@lhnet.ca>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@ixiacom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: allow netdev_wait_allrefs() to run faster
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:52:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091024135214.GB6638@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE2BFB3.3060407@gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:49:55AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 06:35:53AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > 
> >> Maybe we could call it once only, if we had to call 1 times
> >> the jiffie delay ?
> > 
> > This could be a very useful approach!
> > 
> > However, please keep in mind that although synchronize_rcu_expedited()
> > forces a grace period, it does nothing to speed the invocation of other
> > RCU callbacks.  In short, synchronize_rcu_expedited() is a faster version
> > of synchronize_rcu(), but doesn't necessarily help other synchronize_rcu()
> > or call_rcu() invocations.
> > 
> > The reason I point this out is that it looks to me that the code below is
> > waiting for some other task which is in turn waiting on a grace period.
> > But I don't know this code, so could easily be confused.
> > 
> 
> Normally, we need a synchronize_rcu() calls, but I feel its bit more than really
> needed here.
> 
> On my dev machine, a synchronize_rcu() lasts between 2 an 12 ms

That sounds like the right range, depending on what else is happening
on the machine at the time.

The synchronize_rcu_expedited() primitive would run in the 10s-100s
of microseconds.  It involves a pair of wakeups and a pair of context
switches on each CPU.

							Thanx, Paul

> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.580259] synchronize_net() 4045596 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.588262] synchronize_net() 7769327 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.625014] synchronize_net() 4772052 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.633008] synchronize_net() 7773896 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.669260] synchronize_net() 3958141 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.677259] synchronize_net() 7755817 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.712011] synchronize_net() 2502544 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.720011] synchronize_net() 7767748 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.754259] synchronize_net() 2087946 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.762258] synchronize_net() 7738054 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:14 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.796011] synchronize_net() 3392760 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.808025] synchronize_net() 11814619 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.848010] synchronize_net() 8970220 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.856015] synchronize_net() 7800782 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.893008] synchronize_net() 6650174 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.897012] synchronize_net() 3744808 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.940202] synchronize_net() 8354366 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.952137] synchronize_net() 11693215 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.985010] synchronize_net() 2355970 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2515.989009] synchronize_net() 3771419 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.028137] synchronize_net() 7661195 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.036152] synchronize_net() 7800056 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.083135] synchronize_net() 6774026 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.089145] synchronize_net() 5727189 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.130385] synchronize_net() 10133932 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.134399] synchronize_net() 3773058 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.170136] synchronize_net() 4479194 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.178138] synchronize_net() 7710466 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.217198] synchronize_net() 4323437 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.226206] synchronize_net() 8723108 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.268013] synchronize_net() 6221155 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.280007] synchronize_net() 11719297 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.324008] synchronize_net() 11654511 ns
> messages:Oct 21 19:13:15 svivoipvnx001-00 kernel: [ 2516.332009] synchronize_net() 7744182 ns
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-24 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-17 22:18 [PATCH/RFC] make unregister_netdev() delete more than 4 interfaces per second Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18  4:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-18 16:13   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18 17:51     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-18 18:21       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-18 19:36         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 12:39         ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-21 15:40           ` [PATCH] net: allow netdev_wait_allrefs() to run faster Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 16:09             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-21 16:51             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-21 19:54               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-29 23:07               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 23:38                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-30  1:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 14:35                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-30 14:43                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-30 23:25                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 23:53                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2009-10-31  0:37                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-08-09 17:23                   ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 17:34                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 17:44                       ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 17:48                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 18:03                           ` Ben Greear
2010-08-09 19:59                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-08-09 21:03                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2010-08-09 21:17                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-21 16:55             ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-23 21:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24  4:35               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24  5:49                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24  8:49                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 13:52                     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-10-24 14:24                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 14:46                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-24 23:49                         ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-25  4:47                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-25  8:35                           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-25 15:19                             ` Octavian Purdila
2009-10-25 19:28                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-24 20:22                 ` Stephen Hemminger

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