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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@dell.com>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>, dann frazier <dannf@hp.com>,
	linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org, Narendra_K@dell.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jordan_Hargrave@dell.com,
	Charles_Rose@dell.com, Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent net interfaces
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:25:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091029142554.GA16869@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091029131125.GA13809@auslistsprd01.us.dell.com>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 08:11:25AM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> Netdev team - are you in agreement that having multiple names to
> address the same netdevice is a worthwhile thing to add, to allow a
> variety of naming schemes to exist simultaneously?  If not, this whole
> discussion will be moot, and my basic problem, that the ethX naming
> convention is nondeterministic, but we need determinism, remains
> unresolved.

I'm still totally confused as to why you think this.  What is wrong with
what we do today, which is name network devices in a deterministic
manner by their MAC in userspace?  That name goes into the kernel, and
everyone uses the same name and is happy.

If you don't like naming by MAC, then pick some other deterministic
naming scheme that works for your hardware and write udev rules for it.

You could easily name them in a way that could keep the lowest number
(eth0) for the lowest PCI id if you so desired and your BIOS guaranteed
it.

This way the kernel has only one name, and so does userspace, and
everyone is happy.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-10-09 14:00 ` PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy Narendra K
2009-10-09 14:51   ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-09 16:23     ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-09 16:56       ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-12 10:41     ` Scott James Remnant
2009-10-12 11:31       ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-12 17:37       ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-13 18:06         ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:53           ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-13 19:53             ` John W. Linville
2009-10-09 16:36   ` Greg KH
2009-10-09 17:17     ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-09 17:22       ` Greg KH
2009-10-09 21:09   ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10  2:44     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-10  4:40       ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10  5:23         ` Greg KH
2009-10-10  8:17           ` Sujit K M
2009-10-10 16:27             ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 19:00               ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-10 21:10                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 12:47           ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10 16:25             ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 17:34               ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-10 21:13                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-12  6:21                   ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-12 16:19                     ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-11 16:40               ` David Zeuthen
2009-10-11 18:47                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 18:11           ` Bill Fink
2009-10-10 18:35             ` Kay Sievers
2009-10-11 21:10           ` Rob Townley
2009-10-11 23:04             ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-12  3:00             ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 18:35               ` Rob Townley
2009-10-12 18:44                 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-12 17:45           ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-12 17:55             ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 18:07               ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-12 18:15                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 18:32         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-10 21:06           ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 18:02             ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:53               ` Narendra_K
2009-10-12  7:30           ` Kurt Van Dijck
2009-10-11  0:37         ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-13 15:08   ` dann frazier
2009-10-13 17:13     ` Narendra_K
2009-10-13 17:36       ` dann frazier
2009-10-16  0:32         ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 14:02           ` Narendra_K
2009-10-16 15:20             ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 15:33               ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-16 15:41                 ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 21:40                 ` dann frazier
2009-10-19 11:30                   ` Narendra_K
2009-10-19 16:14                     ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-11-04 14:23                       ` Narendra_K
2009-11-06  8:49                         ` Marco d'Itri
2009-11-06 22:06                           ` Matt Domsch
2009-11-06 22:35                             ` Marco d'Itri
2009-11-06 23:17                               ` dann frazier
2009-11-09 14:41                               ` Narendra_K
2009-11-10 17:23                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-11-11  6:31                                   ` Narendra_K
2009-11-06 22:05                         ` Domsch, Matt
2009-10-22  6:36                   ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent net interfaces dann frazier
2009-10-27 20:55                     ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-28  8:23                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-10-28 13:03                         ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-28 15:09                           ` dann frazier
2009-10-28 16:09                             ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-10-28 16:09                             ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-10-28 16:11                               ` Greg KH
2009-10-28 13:06                         ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-28 19:15                         ` Narendra_K
2009-10-29 13:11                         ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-29 14:25                           ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-10-29 16:44                             ` Narendra_K
2009-10-29 16:52                               ` Greg KH
2009-10-29 17:22                                 ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent netinterfaces Narendra_K
2009-10-29 17:50                                   ` dann frazier
2009-10-29 16:49                             ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent net interfaces Ben Hutchings
2009-10-29 16:55                               ` Greg KH
2009-10-29 17:12                                 ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-29 17:20                                   ` Greg KH
2009-10-29 17:46                             ` dann frazier
2009-10-30  3:30                               ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-30  5:38                                 ` dann frazier
2009-10-30  6:22                                   ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-30 15:00                                     ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 15:13                               ` Narendra_K
2009-10-30 16:08                                 ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 16:53                                   ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent netinterfaces Narendra_K
2009-10-30 17:05                                     ` dann frazier
2009-10-30 17:10                                   ` [PATCH] udev: create empty regular files to represent net interfaces Matt Domsch
2009-10-30 17:13                                     ` Greg KH
2009-10-30  7:45                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-10-30 16:22                           ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-30 16:34                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-13 19:51       ` PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy Greg KH
2009-10-13 20:00         ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-10-13 20:19           ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 22:05             ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-13 22:08             ` dann frazier

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