From: Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Lucian Adrian Grijincu <lgrijincu@ixiacom.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] udp: optimize lookup of UDP sockets to by including destination address in the hash key
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:25:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911051825.45749.opurdila@ixiacom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AF20F02.7000601@gmail.com>
On Thursday 05 November 2009 01:32:18 you wrote:
> >
> > Very true, the benchmark itself shows a significant overhead increase on
> > the TX side and indeed this case is not very common. But for us its an
> > important usecase.
> >
> > Maybe there is a more clever way of fixing this specific use-case without
> > hurting the common case?
>
> Clever way ? Well, we will see :)
>
> I now understand previous Lucian patch (best match) :)
>
> Could you please describe your usecase ? I guess something is possible,
> not necessarly hurting performance of regular usecases :)
>
IIRC, we first saw this issue in VoIP tests with up to 16000 sockets bound on a
certain port and IP addresses (each IP address is assigned to a particular
interface). We need this setup in order to emulate lots of VoIP users each
with a different IP address and possible a different L2 encapsulation.
Now, as a general note I should say that our usecases can seem absurd if you
take them out of the network testing field :) but my _personal_ opinion is that
a better integration between our code base and upstream code may benefit both
upstream and us:
- for us it gives the ability to stay close to upstream and get all of the new
shiny features without painful upgrades
- for upstream, even if most systems don't run into these scalability issues
now, I see that some people are moving in that direction (see the recent PPP
problems); also, stressing Linux in that regard can only make the code better
- as long as the approach taken is clean and sound
- we (or our customers) use a plethora of networking devices for testing so
exposing Linux early to those devices can only help catching issues earlier
In short: expect more absurd patches from us :)
> I have struct reorderings in progress to reduce number of cache lines read
> per socket from two to one. So this would reduce by 50% time to find
> a particular socket in the chain.
>
> But if you *really* want/need 512 sockets bound to _same_ port, we probably
> can use secondary hash tables (or rbtree), as soon as we stack more than
> XX sockets on a particular slot.
>
> At lookup, we check if extended hash table exists before doing
> normal rcu lookup.
>
> Probably can be done under 300 lines of code.
> On normal machines, these extra tables/trees would not be used/allocated
>
Yep, that should work. Will respin the patch based on this idea and see what
we get, but it will take a while.
Thanks,
tavi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-05 16:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-04 21:03 [RFC] [PATCH] udp: optimize lookup of UDP sockets to by including destination address in the hash key Lucian Adrian Grijincu
2009-11-04 21:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-04 23:04 ` Octavian Purdila
2009-11-04 23:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-05 12:12 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-05 13:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-05 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-05 15:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-05 15:16 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-05 16:25 ` Octavian Purdila [this message]
2009-11-05 16:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-05 17:03 ` Octavian Purdila
2009-11-05 17:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-06 18:34 ` Eric Dumazet
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