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From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
To: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ifb: add multi-queue support
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:45:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091113074508.GA6605@ff.dom.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <412e6f7f0911122216u6880e855g6a15dac29ad6a100@mail.gmail.com>

On 13-11-2009 07:16, Changli Gao wrote:
> 2009/11/13 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>:
>> Messy ? Because of few tests added in code, and branches always
>> correctly predicted ?
>>
>> Still some people might rely on tasklet instead of workqueues
>> and added scheduler stress and latency penalty. Tasklet are softirq
>> and normally are processed a few nanosecs later than RX softirq,
>> on the same CPU, while with your workqueue, I guess the scheduler will
>> try to not migrate it, so we add a penalty for light to moderate load.
>>
>> I guess this new ifb mode would be a regression for them ?
>>
>> If you dont want to maintain a compatibility mode, maybe you
>> should introduce a complete new driver, drivers/net/ifbmq.c or ifbwq.c
>>
>> (multiqueue or workqueue references)
>>
> 
> It sounds a good idea.

I don't think so. There would be a lot of code duplication and later
maintenance problems only because of the scheduling method. The main
question is to establish if there is really no performance difference
(which I doubt) - unless Changli can show some tests for various
setups now. On the other hand, if there is a difference, why keep
ineffective solution - similar thing should be possible to do in the
softirq context as well.

So it should not be a big problem to do it a bit messy for some
testing time. Since we can use separate ->ndo_start_xmit() etc. it
shouldn't be too messy, I guess.

Jarek P.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-13  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-11  9:51 [PATCH] ifb: add multi-queue support Changli Gao
2009-11-11  9:56 ` Changli Gao
2009-11-11 10:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-11 10:57   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-11 15:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-12  3:12   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-12  8:52     ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-11-12  9:32       ` Changli Gao
2009-11-12 15:10     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-13  1:28       ` Changli Gao
2009-11-12  9:44 ` Changli Gao
2009-11-12  9:48   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-12 15:11     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-13  1:32       ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13  7:18         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-12 12:48   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-13  1:26     ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13  5:56       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-13  6:16         ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13  7:45           ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2009-11-13  8:54             ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13  9:18               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-11-13  9:38                 ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13  9:57                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-11-13 11:25                     ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13 12:32                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-11-13 13:10                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-13 16:15                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-11-13 23:28                     ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13 23:32                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-11-13 23:42                         ` Changli Gao
2009-11-14 12:53                           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-14 13:30                             ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13 13:55               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-13  4:37   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-16 16:39     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-11-17  3:10       ` David Miller
2009-11-17  5:38         ` Changli Gao
2009-11-17  6:02           ` Stephen Hemminger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-16  7:31 Changli Gao
2009-11-16  8:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-16  8:43   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-13  4:42 Changli Gao
2009-11-13  4:46 ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10  8:30 Changli Gao
2009-11-10  9:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-10  9:43   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 10:57     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-10 11:14       ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 11:41         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-10 12:14           ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 12:19             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-10 12:37               ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 12:45                 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-10 13:06                   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 13:34                     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-10 13:49                       ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 16:45                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-11-11  6:30                           ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 10:29 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-11-10 10:48   ` Changli Gao
2009-11-10 10:55     ` Eric Dumazet

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