From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Regression in linux 2.6.32 virtio_net seen with vhost-net
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:37:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091216103726.GB28541@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200912161507.53805.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 03:07:53PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:02:27 am Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > Right. Hmm. So for this to work we'll need to
> > 1. Free skb upon interrupt instead of
> > waiting for the next xmit call
> > 2. Add API to query free ring capacity
> >
> > Rusty, sounds like a good plan?
>
> Well, the query stuff is not too bad, but I can't completely convince myself
> it's race-free. We don't want to do locking.
We do not want to lock TX? For performance?
It might not be a problem: interrupts only start
to be enabled when we are running out of space on TX,
so this is a kind of slow path anyway now.
If necessary, we can also only do this range check
if netif_tx_queue_stopped.
> A NAPI-style solution seems cleaner, and I'm testing that now.
Hmm, as you say separately, this might not be 2.6.32 material though.
Maybe a simply capacity check will be safe enough for 2.6.32.
> > We could also extend host to delay interrupt
> > until there is sufficient TX capacity
> > but of course we also need to support
> > old hosts as well.
>
> Xen does this, and I rejected it in favor of simple enable/disable
> flags in the original virtio design. It was probably wrong: while the
> guest can enable on a "few remaining" heuristic, it's going to have
> latency. The host can do a more timely decision.
>
> There's nothing stopping the Host from doing this heuristic today, of
> course: the DISABLE flag is advisory only.
Heh, but this might hurt performance on guests that do
assume it's used correctly. A new feature might be cleaner?
> But let's check the limitations
> of the guest-enable approach first?
Sure.
> Thanks,
> Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-16 10:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-08 22:50 [RFC PATCH] Regression in linux 2.6.32 virtio_net seen with vhost-net Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-13 12:25 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-13 23:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 14:42 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-15 16:26 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-16 1:21 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-15 23:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 1:58 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-16 4:37 ` Rusty Russell
2009-12-16 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-12-16 2:41 ` Rusty Russell
2009-12-16 2:53 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-16 12:45 ` Rusty Russell
2009-12-16 13:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 13:35 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-16 13:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 13:48 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 2:02 ` Rusty Russell
2009-12-17 9:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-18 1:55 ` Rusty Russell
2009-12-16 13:30 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 1:43 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-17 3:12 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 5:02 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-17 3:15 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 5:05 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-17 6:28 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 6:45 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-17 10:03 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 11:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-17 11:45 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 11:49 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 12:08 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 12:27 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 12:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-17 12:56 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 13:22 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 13:04 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 13:44 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 14:35 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 14:36 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 21:50 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-17 22:28 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-17 22:41 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-18 13:46 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-18 19:13 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-12-17 11:59 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 12:19 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-17 11:56 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 13:17 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-12-17 14:10 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 14:16 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-16 17:42 ` Sridhar Samudrala
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-17 11:20 Krishna Kumar
2009-12-17 19:28 ` Jarek Poplawski
[not found] <20091217111219.9809.27432.sendpatchset@krkumar2.in.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20091217123153.GA31131@gondor.apana.org.au>
2009-12-17 12:56 ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-12-17 13:40 ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-17 13:56 ` Krishna Kumar2
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